[FRIAM] something serious from something silly
Prof David West
profwest at fastmail.fm
Sat May 1 10:01:31 EDT 2021
Octopi probably do "see" the ground behind them. They have more neurons in their skin than in their brain and the chroma-cells (forgot the technical name) are bi-directional "camera and display." So one side "sees" and transmits to opposing side for display. All without entering the central nervous brain.
davew
On Fri, Apr 30, 2021, at 9:12 PM, thompnickson2 at gmail.com wrote:
> Octopus ground mimicry is the thing I cannot understand. How do you copy
> what you are not looking at?
>
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> Nick Thompson
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>
> A discussion of UFOs occupied some time in FRIAM today, including the
> observation that despite looking for "intelligent signals" ala SETI have
> failed.
>
> Made me think of octopi (& other cephalopods) that communicate with
> brilliant displays of rapidly changing color. We think that these displays
> are more than reactive, that they are "intelligent communication." Mostly,
> it seems to me, we infer this because we have a lot of context, including
> interacting octopi, but if all we had was the "signal" absent the context,
> would we recognize it as "intelligent?"
>
> I am not phrasing the question very well, but if we had nothing except a
> 5-minute video of an octopus' surface changing color, would we be able to
> detect a hidden order or structure that would allow a reasonable
> determination that it originated from an intelligent species?
>
> davew
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