[FRIAM] Drones to detect wildfires

Tue May 25 13:48:35 EDT 2021

Marcus, I don't understand your term "synthetic biology."

On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 10:24 AM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com>
wrote:

> So we move from chemical engineering to synthetic biology.   There will
> always be mistakes.
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Merle Lefkoff
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 25, 2021 10:05 AM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam at redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Drones to detect wildfires
>
>
>
> Marcus, we've been "experimenting" with our terrestrial biome for at least
> 10-12,000 years (when the first spade hit the ground).  The time for more
> experiments is over....unless they are experiments that help us understand
> even more deeply how to restore the Mycelium networks so that the fungi can
> solve our climate change challenge.  This is perhaps the most important
> task that will save us from extinction.  See Merlin Sheldrake's book,
> "Entangled Life" for explanation.
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 8:41 AM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com>
> wrote:
>
> We won’t realize anything unless the experiments happen.   We may not
> learn from experiments, but that is a different issue than the need for the
> experiments.
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Smith
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 25, 2021 7:46 AM
> *To:* friam at redfish.com
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Drones to detect wildfires
>
>
>
> My father dedicated his life to "forest management" as a professional
> forester, trained in biology and range/timber management.   He retired
> "early" after 30 years somewhat in disgust over the changing of aesthetics
> and perspectives of the United States Forest Service.   He was dedicated
> and loyal to the spirit of Aldo Leopold and other early conservationists.
> He spent multiple multi-week segments every summer leading (most Zuni and
> Hopi native) fire-crews on the West Coast trying ot protec homes and
> "valuable timber". We lived on the edge of the first Wilderness (Gila)
> created (at the behest of Aldo Leopold) for 2/3 of my growing up years.
> My father died 10 years ago (Alzheimers), was cremated, and we (illegall)
> spread his cremains in the heart of the Gila with a minor amount of guilt
> as he was a (nearly) strict rule follower (yet asked for this).   Within
> the year, a serious wildfire complex converged at almost the exact spot we
> scattered him (woooOoooooo!).
>
> Even my Trump-voting (2016) sister and husband are now acknowledging that
> his life/profession were dedicated to a project that was fundamentally
> "unwise".    They *were* (for the most part) doing the best they knew how.
> Most everything they did (from stopping wildfires at the first opportunity)
> to running dual bulldozers across landscapes with a chain between them to
> clear the juniper trees from a landscape to allow more grass (for cattle)
> to grow was "well intended", but it was *range* and *timber* management not
> "grassland" and "forest" management as they called it.  The goal was to
> maximize the "productivity" of the public lands under their management
> (dept of Agriculture_.   The Bureau of Land Management (BLM dept of
> Interior) was know to be *worse* in the sense that their rules on cattle
> and mining were much less careful of protecting the landscape and biome.
> The National Parks were derided by both the Forest Service and the BLM for
> being "much too restrictive" (no "harvesting of resources"!!!!)
>
> And yet NOW we realize how "unwise" all of that was.   But in the same
> breath we suggest that all of our exploitative depradations of the planet's
> "resources" are necessary and possibly "a really good thing"...  and I am
> sure that in another 20 or 50 years we will be lamenting *all* of the
> things that today we are promoting wholeheartedly in the name of
> "progress".
>
> This is part of how I became a neo-Luddite.
>
> - Steve
>
> On 5/25/21 2:50 AM, Pieter Steenekamp wrote:
>
> Let's hope they are a bit more wise in managing the wildfires in the
> future than they were in the 20th century.
>
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/14/california-fire-suppression-forests-tinderbox
>
> Before this unprecedented era of mega-blazes on the US west coast,
> California’s forests had a canny, ingenious way of avoiding destructive
> worst-case forest fire scenarios. By periodically removing the grasses,
> shrubs and young trees – known as the forest understory – California
> <https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/california> avoided fires growing to
> destructive intensities before the 20th century. The way this was done?
> Fire.
>
> Every five to 15 years, groundfires would burn through the forest, killing
> off the undergrowth on a regular basis, thus removing the material that can
> act as tinder and kindle fires. Such groundfires were sparked by lightning
> or by indigenous people who used sophisticated burning practices to
> facilitate crop growing and hunting. Because the fires occurred frequently,
> the understory rarely had time to build up enough combustible material for
> the fires to reach the canopies of the mature trees – which is what causes
> the large, devastating fires we are seeing now. As a result, overstory
> trees might get wounded by the groundfires, but they would rarely get
> killed.
>
>
>
> On Tue, 25 May 2021 at 10:22, Jochen Fromm <jofr at cas-group.net> wrote:
>
> Due to climate change there will be more and more wildfires in California,
> Arizona and New Mexico in the coming years. Drones could help to detect
> wildfires early.
>
>
> https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/sensors/remote-sensing/drones-sensors-wildfire-detection
>
>
>
> -J.
>
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