[FRIAM] Drones to detect wildfires

Merle Lefkoff merlelefkoff at gmail.com
Tue May 25 14:16:18 EDT 2021


Thanks for the definition.  When it comes to regenerative agriculture and
forestry, there is no human creation of "new biological parts" or
"redesign" in a technological sense.  It's about just stopping what we're
doing now which is making things worse, and joining nature in supporting
its ability to heal itself after human assault.  I agree not enough
mind-sets have changed yet from routinely referencing our present
industrial civilization's need to control, repare, manipulate --to
understanding a different way of living on Earth so our species might
survive.  At the same time, there are those (mostly young) who are part of
a growing understanding of how to discovder a (perhaps former) sustainable
relationship with our living systems.

On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 10:54 AM Pieter Steenekamp <
pieters at randcontrols.co.za> wrote:

> from wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_biology
>
> *Synthetic biology* (*SynBio*) is a multidisciplinary area of research
> that seeks to create new biological parts, devices, and systems, or to
> redesign systems that are already found in nature.
>
> It is a branch of science that encompasses a broad range of methodologies
> from various disciplines, such as biotechnology
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biotechnology>, genetic engineering
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_engineering>, molecular biology
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular_biology>, molecular engineering
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular_engineering>, systems biology
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_biology>, membrane science
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_lipid_bilayer>, biophysics
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biophysics>, chemical and biological
> engineering <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_engineering>, electrical
> and computer engineering
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_engineering>, control
> engineering <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_engineering> and evolutionary
> biology <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_biology>.
>
> Due to more powerful genetic engineering
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_engineering> capabilities and
> decreased DNA synthesis and sequencing costs
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_sequencing>, the field of synthetic
> biology is rapidly growing. In 2016, more than 350 companies across 40
> countries were actively engaged in synthetic biology applications; all
> these companies had an estimated net worth of $3.9 billion in the global
> market.[1] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_biology#cite_note-1>
>
> On Tue, 25 May 2021 at 19:49, Merle Lefkoff <merlelefkoff at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Marcus, I don't understand your term "synthetic biology."
>>
>> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 10:24 AM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So we move from chemical engineering to synthetic biology.   There will
>>> always be mistakes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Merle Lefkoff
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 25, 2021 10:05 AM
>>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
>>> friam at redfish.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Drones to detect wildfires
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Marcus, we've been "experimenting" with our terrestrial biome for at
>>> least 10-12,000 years (when the first spade hit the ground).  The time for
>>> more experiments is over....unless they are experiments that help us
>>> understand even more deeply how to restore the Mycelium networks so that
>>> the fungi can solve our climate change challenge.  This is perhaps the most
>>> important task that will save us from extinction.  See Merlin Sheldrake's
>>> book, "Entangled Life" for explanation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 8:41 AM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> We won’t realize anything unless the experiments happen.   We may not
>>> learn from experiments, but that is a different issue than the need for the
>>> experiments.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Smith
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 25, 2021 7:46 AM
>>> *To:* friam at redfish.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Drones to detect wildfires
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My father dedicated his life to "forest management" as a professional
>>> forester, trained in biology and range/timber management.   He retired
>>> "early" after 30 years somewhat in disgust over the changing of aesthetics
>>> and perspectives of the United States Forest Service.   He was dedicated
>>> and loyal to the spirit of Aldo Leopold and other early conservationists.
>>> He spent multiple multi-week segments every summer leading (most Zuni and
>>> Hopi native) fire-crews on the West Coast trying ot protec homes and
>>> "valuable timber". We lived on the edge of the first Wilderness (Gila)
>>> created (at the behest of Aldo Leopold) for 2/3 of my growing up years.
>>> My father died 10 years ago (Alzheimers), was cremated, and we (illegall)
>>> spread his cremains in the heart of the Gila with a minor amount of guilt
>>> as he was a (nearly) strict rule follower (yet asked for this).   Within
>>> the year, a serious wildfire complex converged at almost the exact spot we
>>> scattered him (woooOoooooo!).
>>>
>>> Even my Trump-voting (2016) sister and husband are now acknowledging
>>> that his life/profession were dedicated to a project that was fundamentally
>>> "unwise".    They *were* (for the most part) doing the best they knew how.
>>> Most everything they did (from stopping wildfires at the first opportunity)
>>> to running dual bulldozers across landscapes with a chain between them to
>>> clear the juniper trees from a landscape to allow more grass (for cattle)
>>> to grow was "well intended", but it was *range* and *timber* management not
>>> "grassland" and "forest" management as they called it.  The goal was to
>>> maximize the "productivity" of the public lands under their management
>>> (dept of Agriculture_.   The Bureau of Land Management (BLM dept of
>>> Interior) was know to be *worse* in the sense that their rules on cattle
>>> and mining were much less careful of protecting the landscape and biome.
>>> The National Parks were derided by both the Forest Service and the BLM for
>>> being "much too restrictive" (no "harvesting of resources"!!!!)
>>>
>>> And yet NOW we realize how "unwise" all of that was.   But in the same
>>> breath we suggest that all of our exploitative depradations of the planet's
>>> "resources" are necessary and possibly "a really good thing"...  and I am
>>> sure that in another 20 or 50 years we will be lamenting *all* of the
>>> things that today we are promoting wholeheartedly in the name of
>>> "progress".
>>>
>>> This is part of how I became a neo-Luddite.
>>>
>>> - Steve
>>>
>>> On 5/25/21 2:50 AM, Pieter Steenekamp wrote:
>>>
>>> Let's hope they are a bit more wise in managing the wildfires in the
>>> future than they were in the 20th century.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/14/california-fire-suppression-forests-tinderbox
>>>
>>> Before this unprecedented era of mega-blazes on the US west coast,
>>> California’s forests had a canny, ingenious way of avoiding destructive
>>> worst-case forest fire scenarios. By periodically removing the grasses,
>>> shrubs and young trees – known as the forest understory – California
>>> <https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/california> avoided fires growing
>>> to destructive intensities before the 20th century. The way this was done?
>>> Fire.
>>>
>>> Every five to 15 years, groundfires would burn through the forest,
>>> killing off the undergrowth on a regular basis, thus removing the material
>>> that can act as tinder and kindle fires. Such groundfires were sparked by
>>> lightning or by indigenous people who used sophisticated burning practices
>>> to facilitate crop growing and hunting. Because the fires occurred
>>> frequently, the understory rarely had time to build up enough combustible
>>> material for the fires to reach the canopies of the mature trees – which is
>>> what causes the large, devastating fires we are seeing now. As a result,
>>> overstory trees might get wounded by the groundfires, but they would rarely
>>> get killed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 25 May 2021 at 10:22, Jochen Fromm <jofr at cas-group.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Due to climate change there will be more and more wildfires in
>>> California, Arizona and New Mexico in the coming years. Drones could help
>>> to detect wildfires early.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/sensors/remote-sensing/drones-sensors-wildfire-detection
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -J.
>>>
>>>
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>> Center for Emergent Diplomacy
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