[FRIAM] Liberal dilemmas

Wed Sep 1 20:21:22 EDT 2021

Honors at Highlands:  sounds like Manny Aragon.  Is he out of jail yet?

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Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Wed, Sep 1, 2021, 6:09 PM Prof David West <profwest at fastmail.fm> wrote:

> Marcus, you seem to miss my point; perhaps just baiting me.
>
> Honors at Highlands: this was part of a policy, stated publicly at a Board
> of Regents meeting, "Highlands exists to provide degrees to Hispanic
> students that could never obtain one at any other university. Honors
> degrees, curricula, and courses are racist reasons that students from
> northern New Mexico cannot succeed at other universities and, as such,
> cannot be tolerated at Highlands."
>
> Posters: woman in question was a 30+ year old grad student (we shared the
> same advisor). The posters were in my office for my enjoyment, purchased at
> the university bookstore. Meeting was held in my office at her request.
> They were prints of Dali work considered "great art." The human figures are
> totally androgynous as well as being distorted in typical Dali style. Her
> motive for filing the complaint was, she stated in an email a year later,
> to discredit me with our advisor who she thought showed a preference for my
> work over hers. The HR office, because of their "enlightened liberal
> policies" accepted her complaint on its face, no investigation; as the same
> policy stated one was not needed because, as a male and academic staff, I
> had no defensible position to consider.
>
> Ranchers: this particular family took 'stewardship' seriously and made
> hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of improvements to public land. but
> my point is simply that bureaucrats, kowtowing to liberal environmental
> lobbyists set policy without regard to any 'facts on the ground' or any
> science, simply on liberal philosophy of how things "should be."
>
> Access: I too am a taxpayer. There are some very nice hot springs on BLM
> land near by. They are maintained and upgraded by a volunteer public group
> (pretty informal, word of mouth kind of stuff). Being old and feeble, my
> access is increasing dependent on the use of an ATV. BLM policy dictates
> constant reduction of motorized transport on that land, so it will not be
> long before my access is de facto denied. This is a personal example of a
> "woke" policy on increasing wilderness designations thereby denying access
> to elderly, handicapped, and otherwise marginally abled.
>
> You asked for examples of liberal actions/policies that caused harm, to me
> specifically, but by implication in general. These are tangible examples.
> The fact that you agree with the policies and actions does not mitigate the
> harm caused.
>
> davew
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> On Wed, Sep 1, 2021, at 4:33 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
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> Welfare ranchers, indeed.   The rest of us have to constantly modernize
> our skills..  But freeloading off the public land and environment that’s
> “multigenerational” and must be preserved?  Why?
>
>
>
> Marcus
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> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Frank Wimberly
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 1, 2021 3:17 PM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
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> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Liberal dilemmas
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> I owned 40 acres in Torrance County, NM which was adjacent to a national
> forest.  Ranchers were charged $1.21 per acre per year to use the NF land
> for grazing.  I could have made $48 per year by charging a little less than
> the feds.  My property taxes were $40 per year.
>
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> Frank C. Wimberly
> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
> Santa Fe, NM 87505
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> 505 670-9918
> Santa Fe, NM
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> On Wed, Sep 1, 2021, 1:50 PM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:
>
> Dave wrote:
>
> < More significant: I have had my curricular materials censured and have
> had my job threatened on a number of occasions because it was deemed
> inconsistent with liberal values. Ironically, many of these events occurred
> when I was teaching at a Catholic university where I could, with impunity,
> challenge religious orthodoxy, but not liberal woke snowflake orthodoxy. I
> was once censured by the University of Wisconsin HR department because a
> female student filed a sexual harassment complaint because I had a meeting
> with her in my office where I had three Salvador Dali prints on my wall and
> "she was forced to look at breasts the entire meeting." Her complaint was
> upheld because neither the content of the Dali prints nor my intent or
> rational for having them in my office mattered — only her subjective
> feelings. At Highlands I was forbidden to offer Honors courses or any
> opportunities to earn extra credit in a class by tackling extra hard
> problems (these were software courses) because doing so was racist and
> unfair — simply because more non-Hispanic students obtained the extra
> credit or the honors designation. >
>
> So the university had the expectation that before advanced classes could
> be offered, there needed to an unbiasing of the candidate pool for those
> classes by adequately training everyone (every demographic) that was
> potentially feeding in to them?  Ok.  If the university wants to do this,
> or incentivized to do this, it is really just a matter of private/public
> strategy.   If you don't want to work for a university that has this "fair"
> strategy, then don't.    As for subjecting young students to strange
> imagery, I can see why one would not want to do that.  Just as it would
> strange for a female professor to dress like a hooker.   Organizations can
> have dress codes.   Don't be a fool, universities are just another kind of
> business.  You mess with the business, you will have a problem.  It would
> be better if your department heads were "upstanders" and just said, "Hey
> Dave, how is this art helping your students?"
>
> < Not personal, but a relative: multi-generational ranch with Federal
> grazing right. Hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years were spent
> enhancing the Federal land, containment ponds for water that reduced
> erosion and flash flooding without diminishing runoff contribution to
> watershed; planting of native grasses, elimination of  deadwood, etc. etc.
> End result was the ability to safely and sustainably graze X number of
> cattle. About five years ago, BLM issued a new policy dictating the maximum
> carrying capacity of Federal lands. The math was based on lowest common
> denominator. The policy was, at the behest of preservation groups, written
> with the specific intent to minimize and eventually eliminate the use of
> public lands for grazing. (Also mining and motorized recreational vehicle
> use.) Bottom line, allotment was taken away because it violated the numbers
> — not because there was any evidence of actual harm. >
>
> I'm a taxpayer.  Why should I want off road vehicles or cows on federal
> land?  I don't care about either of those things.   This is a weird
> entitlement that these folks have in mind.  As far as I was concerned the
> Bundy principals in Oregon deserved to be met by A-10s.
>
> Marcs
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