[FRIAM] Calling Bullshit

Roger Critchlow rec at elf.org
Mon Sep 13 13:59:51 EDT 2021


All the detached opinions are in one pdf document, the url's refer to pages
within the pdf, just open any one of the (detached opinion) links and
scroll to the beginning of the document.

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On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 1:49 PM uǝlƃ ☤>$ <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:

> I can't find the majority opinion. This page implies there should be one:
>
> https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/21a24.html
> The dissenting opinions are all HTML linked. Maybe I'm just incompetent.
>
> Yeah, there's no doubt that the provenance of the artifact (and its
> content) is also important and might submit to (manual) deconstruction. But
> at some point AI will eventually do a much better job. The robots will be
> better postmodernists than we could ever be.
>
> On 9/13/21 10:40 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> > If there is an artifact, it makes me wonder what the point of the
> artifact practitioner is.    Law, medicine, this should all fall to AI.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$
> > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 10:20 AM
> > To: friam at redfish.com
> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Calling Bullshit
> >
> > Exactly. EricC's comment on correlations between the
> originalist-textualist axis and the liberal-conservative axis ignores the
> useful idiot, Tool, aspect. The question is one of whether or not there is
> such a thing as Ground Truth. When ACB makes some decision based on some
> occult perspective, originalist or pragmatist or whatever, how can she be
> sure she's not merely a tool for the conservatives?
> >
> > In long-winded, written out justifications, that artifact allows for
> both criticism/error-correction *and* postmodern reinterpretation of that
> artifact. But with dead-of-night, unsigned rulings, we're no better off
> than drunk texting one's ex- ... or "wingin' it" when cutting lumber for
> your porch.
> >
> > So, here, ACB is demonstrating that she *is* a political hack, by
> defending occult decisions, post hoc. And it doesn't really matter what
> quadrant it lands on in the 2D space. What matters is the *method*, laid
> out in bare artifacts that we can all criticize.
> >
> > One of my employees argued, in response to my criticism, that I simply
> don't understand his "method" or "process". Well, yeah. Right. Of course I
> don't understand your (pretention at a) method or process because I have no
> artifacts to either learn from or deconstruct. No artifact = no method.
> Similarly, the guy building our porch is doing a fantastic job. But he does
> it all in his head ... no design documents ... no drafting ... etc. Do
> savants contribute to society? Or are they really just crypto-leeches on
> society? ACB can claim to be originalist till the cows come home. But we'll
> never know for sure. And she can never know for sure, either. Decades from
> now, we'll be able to induce some methods from her written opinions. But
> not yet.
> >
>
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