[FRIAM] the cancellation arc

Steve Smith sasmyth at swcp.com
Wed Sep 15 09:45:54 EDT 2021


On 9/14/21 6:01 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> See kernel.com

Yeh, like that...   plenty of what looks like slick pre-release
hype-by-allusion, yet undeniably evidence that the development in this
area is in a virtuous feedback loop.   A quick gander didn't present me
with any numbers but the gear looks pretty pricey...   probably the
stuff of a future motorcycle/bicycle/climbing helmet to upload your
brain as you go into a skid/fall/tumble!


>
>> On Sep 14, 2021, at 4:40 PM, Steve Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Glen-
>>> Ha! Well, not for me. I'm a technophile. Even more important than drug-induced experiences are those induced by other technologies like transcranial magnetic stimulation, which I don't regard as fundamentally different from connectivity drugs. Implants would be even better for interacting with that hairball of [intero|proprio]ceptive feedback loops that compose consciousness as well as pain.
>>
>> I've been dabbling with transcutaneous electro neural stim and
>> electro muscular stim (TENS/EMS) primarily for pain and rehab (Mary's
>> recent back/leg pain/dysfunction), trying to work it into the VR/AR
>> simulacral artifacts I already fiddle with in
>> Visual/Aural/CheapHaptics.  
>>
>> The accessibility of VR/AR gear (HUD/HMD/GPU/CPU) has already
>> overshot my wildest dreams of a couple of decades ago   I fiddled
>> with EEG pickups 20 years ago but it was too early or at least there
>> was a metaphorical impedance mismatch of sorts. I've NOT dabbled with
>> transcranial magnetic stimulation...   I don't even know if it is
>> accessible.  I am curious (guardedly hopeful) that these things are
>> maturing at a pop/commercial level faster/better than at the
>> professional level.   There may well be a crowd-sourced ensemble
>> exploration underway right now.
>>
>> Regarding your /muscaria/fly agaric/ aspirations, I'm hearing
>> something more like homeopathy or law-of-similars since the "fly" in
>> /fly agaric/ comes from etymologically the habit of using it to
>> poison flies by infusing it in milk to attract flies.    Maybe this
>> is entirely a tangent (most of my observations here *are* tangents?).
>>
>> - Steve
>>
>>> So, I'll leave the sweat lodges and eating of wiggling things to more adventurous types like you. But the drugs need not be orally administered. I've always wanted to try to fly by painting myself with muscaria.
>>>
>>> On 9/14/21 11:03 AM, Prof David West wrote:
>>>> Glen: /Were I fully liberated, I'd be doing a lot more, and a lot more diverse, drugs than I do./
>>>>
>>>> Diversity of *_/experiences/_*, not just drugs!!
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