[FRIAM] the cancellation arc

[thompnickson2 at gmail.com]

Glen, 

All observations are myopic.  All observations are from a point of view.  All propositions are three-valued.  So, what is this universal point of view from which you hold my observations to be myopic?  Eh?   Even back on my meds I can see that there is something wrong with that. 

n

Nick Thompson
ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

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From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of ? glen
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Both EricC's and Marcus' responses say what I'm about to say, but in different language.

There is no such thing as 'epiphenomena'. When you see something you *think* is epi, it means you've imputed your preconceived function. It's myopic preemptive registration.



On September 15, 2021 8:24:49 PM PDT, thompnickson2 at gmail.com wrote:
>Hi, everyone [who is still following this thread].  
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>Before I go back on my meds, I just thought I would send along this link <https://www.huffpost.com/entry/compass-pleasure_b_890342> .  I should perhaps be embarrassed at sending a HuffPost link, but the summary of the old Olds/Milner research seems accurate enough and it is very succinct.   On my account we have been talking all along about the epiphenomenal relation and in particular, that version of it which relates goals to functions.  Functions are epiphenomenal with respect to the goals that serve them.  The function of a pleasure (ie, a goal system) is to get us to do stuff that urgently needs doing.  What happens when we access the goal system directly and make it possible to do essentially nothing and achieve the goal?   Dave says, having learned what it had to teach him, he would put the device on a shelf.  But how would he do that and WHY would he do that?  What other goal-pleasure would be sufficient to mobilize and direct him in the putting of the device on the shelf.  
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>Ok.  Best be done for a bit.  Let’ see.  One tablet a day by mouth.  Sorry to bother you all.  I do learn a lot from these exercises, even if nobody else does.  And then later I write something good, and that pleases me.  
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glen ⛧


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