[FRIAM] Wilson and Snower on Economics

Fri Apr 22 17:28:34 EDT 2022

Ah, nice to know, again, something google doesn't find.

(Irrelevant, but I similarly found today that searching for "patagonia
pants" at amazon generates pages and pages of results, but no pants made by
patagonia.)

Google did find this pdf,
http://mechanism.ucsd.edu/teaching/models/hesse.pdf, part of the first
chapter of Models and Analogies in Science.  Sounds abductive.  Is Nick
able to read pdf's again?

-- rec --

On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 5:09 PM Roger Frye <frye.roger at gmail.com> wrote:

> Several books by Mary B. Hesse including *Models and Analogues in Science*
> can be borrowed from the Internet Archive
> https://archive.org/search.php?query=mary%20b.%20hesse
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 2:41 PM Roger Critchlow <rec at elf.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://aeon.co/essays/why-are-women-philosophers-often-erased-from-collective-memory
>>
>> The most prominent is an elegantly analytic book concerning the role of
>>> metaphors in scientific thinking: *Models and Analogies in **Science*
>>>  (1963).
>>>
>>
>>
>>> Hesse’s book was ahead of its time. It also is out of print today.
>>> Meanwhile, Thomas Kuhn’s ridiculously popular *The Structure of
>>> Scientific Revolutions* (1962), published just one year prior to her *Models
>>> and Analogies*, has been repeatedly reissued and enjoys the status of
>>> being a classic in the field.
>>
>>
>> -- rec --
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 5:37 PM David Eric Smith <desmith at santafe.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Boy if I had a nickel for every instance of “new paradigm” in academic
>>> papers, I would be so rich I could stop working for a living and invent a
>>> new paradigm in something.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 5, 2022, at 1:05 AM, Russ Abbott <russ.abbott at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> This is the discussion by the authors
>>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fevonomics.com%2fthe-making-of-rethinking-the-theoretical-foundation-of-economics%2f&c=E,1,05n5irwWoH5RagfBWtWaas3Y8es4W50qr7WwqTGNgRV-7G7mwtJbEG4CIW13gnxkOA7AGrUPMJyXYpBiFjI4z8Jy8gEUfQfyro5eKe-WLfPJqKz5JoxhzE0mjw,,&typo=1> of
>>> the article
>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/17mSkmB0nP1UNyrKE0LIN8-AfgD3DQGF4/view>
>>> .
>>>
>>> I'd read the discussion first.
>>>
>>> -- Russ
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 7:35 AM glen <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry for my incompetence. What "linked page"? I see a few non-DoI
>>>> links inside the document:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://thisviewoflife.com/greek-democracy-as-a-major-evolutionary-transition-a-conversation-with-josiah-ober/
>>>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fthisviewoflife.com%2fgreek-democracy-as-a-major-evolutionary-transition-a-conversation-with-josiah-ober%2f&c=E,1,aQa9ED7yR2RfH-YSMj0aRCvjqSM6lAksa1vHXQ_ghBy_irlpk6Ek7vWOuaxGP9PpZJlIE0JN-u_uSDwDudVd6sHF4MMtRMyMoHI27__EJmipz9uj9eJ1Xwo,&typo=1>
>>>> https://humanenergy.io/projects/science-of-the-noosphere/
>>>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fhumanenergy.io%2fprojects%2fscience-of-the-noosphere%2f&c=E,1,Iqd2FfD-S8Mn7SBbNsfGyciGQicLKyb-WLUTDxppyp5EexXWVsxGQ7tv1xSiQmFhG4UYAhbIWN0HjuefLBy3GQ3Mfj4oGLK---doBrA6RNNPW7Q107zrpbFtGA,,&typo=1>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.strategy-business.com/feature/Common-Purpose-Realigning-Business-Economies-and-Society
>>>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.strategy-business.com%2ffeature%2fCommon-Purpose-Realigning-Business-Economies-and-Society&c=E,1,QDVpKcoSvH10YLZfWZ366fvuAgqgj_22QLo3p8LDbTki9rhNwr-oExgzz5gKUlwnsYERGjngUo4Wfn13LRnfhEFToNFw5YcbOTt1CBLQ45_crTw,&typo=1>
>>>>
>>>> Is one of those what you mean? Or did you mean to include another link?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the heads up, regardless. Regardless of where you stand on
>>>> the thesis of the paper, the citations are fantastic!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/2/22 11:59, Russ Abbott wrote:
>>>> > Strongly recommend reading the discussion on the linked page. It has
>>>> a good overview of the issues and positions in the article.
>>>> > _
>>>> > _
>>>> > __-- Russ Abbott
>>>> > Professor Emeritus, Computer Science
>>>> > California State University, Los Angeles
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sat, Apr 2, 2022 at 11:33 AM Russ Abbott <russ.abbott at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:russ.abbott at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >     Rethinking the theoretical foundation of economics I: The
>>>> multilevel paradigm
>>>> >
>>>> >         This article offers a new paradigm for economics: the
>>>> “multilevel paradigm,” which applies the Darwinian theory of evolution to
>>>> the analysis of economic processes. “Darwinian” refers to all
>>>> variation/selection/replication processes, not just genetic evolution,
>>>> making it highly relevant to economic theory and practice. The economy is
>>>> viewed as a system that is embedded within political, social and
>>>> environmental systems. The evolution of economic activities is understood
>>>> in terms of variation (innovation), selection (cooperative and competitive
>>>> relations that survive) and replication (transmission and proliferation of
>>>> ideas). The multilevel paradigm comes with its own definition and purpose
>>>> of economics, as the discipline that explores how resources, goods and
>>>> services can be mobilized in the pursuit of wellbeing in
>>>> thriving societies, now and in the future. We describe the prominent
>>>> characteristics of the multilevel paradigm: flexible, multiple levels of
>>>> functional
>>>> >         organization; the primacy of social relations, ignorance as
>>>> uncertainty; multi-faceted, context-dependent wellbeing; and multilevel
>>>> evolution as progress.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/17mSkmB0nP1UNyrKE0LIN8-AfgD3DQGF4/view
>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/17mSkmB0nP1UNyrKE0LIN8-AfgD3DQGF4/view
>>>> >
>>>> >     _
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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