[FRIAM] Roger Mcnamee !!??

Marcus Daniels marcus at snoutfarm.com
Sun Jan 2 15:26:43 EST 2022


Well, there you go, buy a https://flowbee.com/ and that's one less trip.

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Hmm.  In the late sixties my younger sister urged me to go to her stylist and to request that my hair "be styled in a razor cut."  To me the result looked the same as when I went to my barber.

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On Sun, Jan 2, 2022, 1:18 PM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com<mailto:marcus at snoutfarm.com>> wrote:
Nick writes:

< Imagined a world in which we all worked at home, everything was on zoom, and everything was delivered by Amazon by drone.  I realize this is a reductio, but hum along with me for a few bars.  There would be no intermediate social landscape between the home and the distribution center.  No intermediate human scales.



I can’t say immediately why this would be a bad thing, but my gut doesn’t like it.>


I can't think of many examples where the intermediate scales are anything but wasteful or intrusive.   Maybe to see a tailor coupled to the purchase of certain clothes?  I still drive to services (dentist, doctor, hair stylist), just not to redistributors, because they don't really add anything.   There's still a farmer's market that seems as popular as ever -- but they DO offer something unique.    I can drive five minutes to Home Depot but honestly half the time their inventory is exhausted for what I want, and I end up ordering it online.


Marcus



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Marcus,



I would like to be convinced …. But



Imagined a world in which we all worked at home, everything was on zoom, and everything was delivered by Amazon by drone.  I realize this is a reductio, but hum along with me for a few bars.  There would be no intermediate social landscape between the home and the distribution center.  No intermediate human scales.



I can’t say immediately why this would be a bad thing, but my gut doesn’t like it.



Nick



Nick Thompson

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I can see living without Facebook (I do), but why can't we live with Amazon?   It seems like they did a pretty good job of displacing the likes of Walmart.  It could happen again.  What added inherent value do stores have, other than as a mechanism to prevent he consolidation of market influence w.r.t. to prices?

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Subject: [FRIAM] Roger Mcnamee !!??



I just listened to this podcast



https://feeds.megaphone.fm/VMP5489734702



a conversation between the former prosecutor, Joyce Vance, and the musician, financier, turncoat Facebook investor Roger Mcnamee, who likens this moment with big tech to the moment before the food industry regulations of the early 1900’s and anti-pollution legislation of the 60’s, moments when Da People reasserted control over over-weening industry interests.  He is author of the book, Zucked.



An hour-long pod cast is a terribly inefficient way to learn about something, so I hope that one you, for whom none of this is news, can offer a more condensed source.



We are basically talking about the Amazon paradox, here: can’t live with it; can’t live without it.  How much ARE we willing to pay to have the trains run on time?



As usual, I am in need of instruction.



Nick Thompson

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