[FRIAM] One of many things the country is fucked on

Mon Jan 17 12:37:02 EST 2022

Forgive me while I hijack this rant to append my own political rant?

Here is some background. I live in New Mexico, which is a land of very
little water. Last year I got interested in stand up paddle boarding in the
few rivers that annually have enough water to float on. It is a great way
to see wildlife and avoid the summer heat. New Mexico is lucky enough to
have a state constitution that protects people's rights to use waterways
[1].
Our previous Governor, who was basically a spokesperson for rich private
interests (AKA Texans), silently made a rule that allowed land
owners (Texans) to put barbed wire across the rivers. It only takes a few
fences to make a river non navigable by inflatable boat. That rule is
mostly not enforced because it is unconstitutional, and unfair. It is
currently on it's way to the supreme court. I probably don't need to
mention that the rich landowners have much more money in this fight than
the rafters and fisherman.
In the meantime, our current governor, who is a Democrat with some arguably
dictator-like tendencies, has started to fire every game
commissioner who refuses to enforce the previously mentioned
unconstitutional rule. There have been 2 so far [2]. I am curious what
her motivations are. Is there such a thing as lobbyist induced Stockholm
syndrome?

Cody Smith

[1] New Mexico Consttution. Article 16 Section 2.
https://ballotpedia.org/Article_XVI,_New_Mexico_Constitution
[2] Much more information with links.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Albuquerque/comments/s3zdrk/governor_removes_another_qualified_commissioner/

On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 2:08 AM Jochen Fromm <jofr at cas-group.net> wrote:

> Let me try to view it from a complexity perspective:
>
> After the Cold War we thought capitalism has won and communism lost, but
> it is not that simple. Now we see the drawbacks of capitalism too.
> Companies in capitalism were forced to reduce their costs and all the jobs
> went to China where most supply chains end now. Nature is exploited in
> capitalism globally on a unprecedented scale. The climate is broken and the
> world is burning. The world drowns in waste: plastic waste, nuclear waste,
> e-waste, ....
>
> The system is not only producing trash, it even sells trash wrapped in
> lies. Fast food corporations ruin our health by selling fake food and
> paying their workers extremely low slave wages. They spend a lot of money
> for ads and marketing though, but marketing can be considered as the art of
> lying. Amazon has successfully destroyed all bookstores and pays its
> workers in fulfillment centers not enough to make a living. Facebook aka
> Meta helps to destroy democracy while Mark Zuckerberg enjoys his life in
> his giant estate in Hawaii.
>
> Gil is right, the world is broken in many ways. Obviously we need to
> support our politicians in understanding the mess and in finding ways to
> fix it. Complexity science helps us to study complex systems on a large
> scale, to understand how they work, how they interact and how they can
> fail. The SFI in Santa Fe is known worldwide as a promoter for work in this
> important area, even if it might appear as a shabby or boring building to
> local residents.
>
> -J.
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Stephen Guerin <stephen.guerin at simtable.com>
> Date: 1/14/22 05:31 (GMT+01:00)
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam at redfish.com>
>
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] One of many things the country is fucked on
>
> Gil,
>
> I love you, man. Maybe a little less gratuitous graphic imagery in the
> rants.
>
> Extra points if you can tie the rants to some kind of Complexity
> perspective -  Not that that is too common here. :-)
>
> -Stephen
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> On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 4:31 PM Gillian Densmore <gil.densmore at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The maslows are just fucked. Reason number 99999 out of googolplex.
>> To save myself a lot of mental wear and tair. and to save some on gass. I
>> had hoped I could shop amazon pantry. for at least some of it.
>> -a lot of the basics: breakfast cerials, or bagels aint available for
>> SNAP,or even at all where I am geographically speaking. I guess bozo the
>> the clown doesn't consider santa fe a real place. Welcome to club ahole.
>> -Snack stuff is equally hit and mis for just being available
>> -same for cleaning sprays and gels
>> Oh but I can get my cookies and MnMs on all I want.
>> The very fact that 500 some odd twats even consider a weekly alowence er
>> um sorry "Universal income" as a question. Is just fucking stupid.  If they
>> can't even get around to, uh ya know fixing the economy, having universal
>> healthcare and blah blah. They sure the fuck can get the havenots like
>> yours truely a god damn alowence. my SDI from inflation just don't go all
>> that far. And trumpster types winge about 'oh being lazy blah blah' .they
>> see the news, they know, just as well as this list does.  Jobs sucked a fat
>> dick back in 2014 because of slave-wages. they suck more now because of
>> that, and covid reasons. Plus fact is not 100% of people can work if they
>> want to. Just not enough slots to do that.
>>
>> I fail to understand why it is that with a super fragile ecosystem home
>> delivery is just a basic. Getting out for fresh is great. Telling what's
>> left of air to get reked not so much.
>>
>> -Me the one sane dude left.
>>
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