[FRIAM] health care logistics

[David Eric Smith]

To say this is a value question is fair, glen, given my shorthands of language.

However, I would like to split apart questions of “who wants what” from questions of “what can or cannot happen under what conditions, irrespective of what anybody wants”.  In principle we have ways to get at the latter question; we often do worse in getting any resolution out of the former.  Maybe there is something basic in this?  Our notion of truth is that on any properly-posed question, there should only be one durable answer.  Whereas in the area of desires, we think it is either inescapable, or for many also desirable (a self-referential value judgment) that different answers coexist indefinitely.

Eric



> On Jan 25, 2022, at 8:02 AM, glen <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Necessary for what, though? We need the shared value(s) before we can ask what response we'd get from the convergence on something that might be necessary to adhere to that value. Is the shared value that biology on this planet should be preserved and the thing we need to do is impossible? Or perhaps the shared value that all "lower forms of life" were simply stepping stones to the human organism, but to preserve the human organism is impossible? Etc.
> 
> As Jon likes to ask: What are we optimizing? If we can't agree on that, then the responses to impossibilities will be as diverse as the values that underlie those impossibilities. And, if that's the case, then we're back to the clustering/homogenizing we see in any aspect of pop culture.
> 
> On 1/24/22 17:21, David Eric Smith wrote:
>> In a real situation where we decided something was necessary that we believed there was no way to do, somehow I feel like the same movie doesn’t become the response.  Something else does.  What is that?
> 
> On 1/24/22 17:34, Marcus Daniels wrote:
>> Before I launch into a diatribe about why the hell we can't agree to basic, never mind interesting things: 
> 
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> glen
> Theorem 3. There exists a double master function.
> 
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