[FRIAM] self-care

Tue Jul 12 16:02:24 EDT 2022

Hi Glen and Nick

Seen from New Delhi (India), a distance of 8,000 miles, the US of A appears
as a monolithic ("One nation under a Christian God") capitalist nation
regardless of which of your 2 interchangeable parties are in power in
Washington. For us Trump is the same as Biden, Farid Zakaria is no
different from Tucker Carlson.

In so far as the Guttmacher dispute is concerned, organisations I am
connected to have an ongoing dispute with Wikipedia since 2013, and they
noticed the contributions of this Wikipedia account [
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/LPSingh] were strangely
suspicious and were promoting drug based self induced "home" abortions in
India in violation of India's law. Because the account claims to be medical
student in a top medical government college of India and also a specialist
in abortions, one of our team members tried to alert the Wikipedia
community [
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:MalluMalleus&oldid=806327897]
but instead ended up getting blocked at Wikipedia.

We then confirmed under Freedom of Information that no such student ever
existed at the KEM College and our complaints to the Federal Health
Ministry of India also unearthed the Guttmacher Foundation connections
(sock-puppetry) and our Govt took some positive actions (albeit only
temporarily till their top officers were suitably bribed) against the
foundation's activities in India.

We can say many things about Guttmacher, but this other article says quite
a bit of it already [
https://prismreports.org/2021/12/06/guttmacher-institute-staff-say-a-toxic-work-culture-has-the-reproductive-rights-research-giant-in-a-death-spiral/
]

Sarbajit

On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 12:23 AM glen <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:

> What's a bit bizarre about Sarbajit's accusation of hypocrisy is the
> overwhelming diversity of US Government components. It would make sense to
> accuse a single agency, say, the FDA of something like hypocrisy. But even
> there, we have different regimes ran by different people and there's a
> turnover of individuals within the affiliated organizations.
>
> I suppose this is the heart of the "stare decisis" arguments against
> willy-nilly overturning "precedent" and cross administration changes like
> Trump rejecting the nuclear deal with Iran. It reminds me of the Citizens
> United ruling and the false equivalence between national debt/deficit and
> household debt.
>
> Can a materially open thing like a (somewhat) representative government be
> *hypocritical*? What is hypocrisy, really?
>
>
> On 7/3/22 18:23, thompnickson2 at gmail.com wrote:
> > Sarbajit,
> >
> > Could you post materials on the Guttmacher dispute and the science
> behind it?
> >
> > I am guessing that this is all new to us.
> >
> > As to hypocrisy, the term is only appropriate to a unified system,
> usually a person.  But perhaps the metaphor works the other way around.
> Perhaps people are just badly integrated systems, hence sin in all its
> form, deception, hypocrisy, loving thy neighbor too well, and all of that!
> So instead of saying that governments are sort of like people, we might say
> that people are sort of like governments.
> >
> > N
> >
> > Nick Thompson
> >
> > ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com <mailto:ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com>
> >
> > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ <
> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/>
> >
> > *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Sarbajit Roy
> > *Sent:* Saturday, July 2, 2022 2:57 AM
> > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam at redfish.com>
> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] self-care
> >
> > The hypocrisy of the US govts is amazing.
> >
> > For decades they have been desperately promoting pill based self induced
> abortions as "safe" abortions in India and Latin America through their
> puppets like the Guttmacher Institiute and by using misrepresentations and
> outright lies.
> >
> > These pills are highly toxic / carcinogenic and Guttmacher was caught
> red handed by us for using fake accounts on Wikipedia to shape the "self
> induced abortion" article to depict it as safe and as an at-home remedy. We
> got Guttmacher delisted in India for about a year, but they made their way
> back through the USAID RMNCHA programs used to bribe foreign government
> servants to shape policy
> >
> > Sarbajit
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 8:52 PM glen <gepropella at gmail.com <mailto:
> gepropella at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     In the aftermath of the activist Justices overturning RvW, this
> popped up in my feed:
> >
> >     How to Give Yourself an Abortion
> >     https://jewishcurrents.org/how-to-give-yourself-an-abortion <
> https://jewishcurrents.org/how-to-give-yourself-an-abortion>
> >
> >     I remain torn on the issue of self-care. And lots of energy was
> added to my oscillators with the whole "horse dewormer" thing for COVID-19.
> (Yes, I'm poking fun both at the people who bought veterinary ivermectin
> and the people who used the disgusting sneer "horse dewormer".) To boot,
> this post came up this morning about a homeopathic packet sent home with
> the patient after surgery:
> https://centerforinquiry.salsalabs.org/2022cfimidyearemailversion11 <
> https://centerforinquiry.salsalabs.org/2022cfimidyearemailversion11>.
> (Placebo is a thing, despite Blumner's write-off.)
> >
> >     Nick is fond of asking people whether they take multivitamins or
> not. And while it's true most experts claim that *healthy* people just pee
> them out. *Who* amongst us actually qualifies as "healthy"? What does
> "health" even mean? That's not an idle or rhetorical question. Am I
> "healthy", despite the excruciating chronic pain in my shoulders, neck, and
> lower back? Despite my sporadic debilitating migraines? Despite my now
> abated follicular lymphoma? Sure, I *seem* healthy because I can do
> pull-ups, shovel dirt, drink 5 pints without a hangover, and maintain a
> full-time job with a bit of time for hobbies. But what you see from the
> outside doesn't reflect what I feel on the inside, which is like a sick
> puppy where the slightest bad event would topple me into the "disabled"
> category. "Healthy" is at best a misinformation concept, at worst a
> malinformation concept:
> https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/publications/mdm-incident-response-guide_508.pdf
> >     <
> https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/publications/mdm-incident-response-guide_508.pdf
> >
> >
> >     Sneer all you want at the new-age descendant reading self-help
> books, cutting out magazine ads for their "vision board", or
> self-administering veterinary de-fetus pills, but there's something
> important, here. Fad diets, bottled water, alcoholism or pregnancy as an
> indicator for moral failure, etc. all point at that thing, whatever that
> thing is.
> >
> >     In that context, self-administered abortion is legit.
>
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