[FRIAM] These women might be able to tolerate Friam

[Steve Smith]

FriAM is far from dead IMO, but I do suspect we are somewhat 
narrower/canalized than we need to be (or not, because in fact we are 
what we are?).  I think it is a loss that we don't have more women's 
voices here more often, and I do appreciate those who manage to weigh 
in, and lament those we may have driven away with our ??? 
nature/style?     I know we have bored/irritated plenty of men off the 
list (or into lurking the shadows) as well.

One of the consistent themes in Graeber's "Dawn of Everything" is his 
cogitations on Matriarchal/Patriarchal but with the acknowledgement of a 
higher dimension that removes/ignores/displaces the "arch" part.   For 
example, there are many Matrilineal cultures where there is still a 
Patriarch (king) running the show, treating his subjects as "children" 
like a stern (and/or loving) father would but whose heir to power would 
be his eldest nephew on a sister's side (his mother's filial 
grandson).   Another example was a culture where all figuration/art 
depicted women larger than men and going about more 
leaderly/administrative tasks but the men still being hunters and warriors.

Thanks for the offering of your blog-entry.  I commented on that-there 
in the spirit of Glen's admonition of our conflating different mediums, 
using a mail-list for the "wrong" purpose. While I am used to, in my 
life, recognizing that I am "doing it wrong!" (again), I accept that 
there are accepted standards and seek to follow/align with them when I 
can.  Over-subscription to norms can lead to canalization, but then some 
canalization is good.  Where would the grandeur of the Grand Canyon be 
if everything were a floodplain?  I offer you the Great Basin and Salt 
Lake/Flats that go with it, fascinating in their own right!

On 6/6/22 6:14 PM, Jochen Fromm wrote:
> I hope FRIAM is not dead yet. It always inspires me. The recent 
> discussion with Nick for instance inspired me to write this short blog 
> post today
> https://blog.cas-group.net/2022/06/the-strange-phenomenon-of-consciousness/
>
> -J.
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: George Duncan <gtduncan at gmail.com>
> Date: 6/6/22 04:59 (GMT+01:00)
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
> <friam at redfish.com>
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] These women might be able to tolerate Friam
>
> Or rather, that they could bring FRIAM to life!
>
> George Duncan
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> From "Notes to myself on beginning a painting" by Richard Diebenkorn.
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> "It's that knife-edge of uncertainty where we come alive to our truest 
> power." Joanna Macy.
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>
> On Sun, Jun 5, 2022 at 7:33 PM Frank Wimberly <wimberly3 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/05/books/review/metaphysical-animals-clare-mac-cumhaill-rachael-wiseman.html?smid=url-share
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