[FRIAM] it's boring

[Barry MacKichan]

This prompts me to propose, with tongue slightly in cheek, the *Weak 
Turing Test*, which consists of a remote observer trying to distinguish 
between a computer and Donald Trump. It doesn’t require any deep 
analysis on the part of the computer, just a database of grievances.

—Barry

On 20 Jun 2022, at 11:45, glen wrote:

> "None of this has anything to do with artificial consciousness, of 
> course. “I don’t anthropomorphize,” Chowdhery said bluntly. 
> “We are simply predicting language.” Artificial consciousness is a 
> remote dream that remains firmly entrenched in science fiction, 
> because we have no idea what human consciousness is; there is no 
> functioning falsifiable thesis of consciousness, just a bunch of vague 
> notions. And if there is no way to test for consciousness, there is no 
> way to program it. You can ask an algorithm to do only what you tell 
> it to do. All that we can come up with to compare machines with humans 
> are little games, such as Turing’s imitation game, that ultimately 
> prove nothing."
>
>
> What amazes me is that few take the logical step of suggesting that 
> there is no such thing as consciousness. We're all "simply predicting 
> language." The only difference between an animal and a language 
> predicting chatbot is that we *also* "simply predict" actions in 4D 
> spacetime. Any disconnect between the serial prediction of tokens from 
> the (not-so-serial) prediction of all actions is that dimension 
> reduction.
>
>
> On 6/20/22 08:15, Marcus Daniels wrote:
>> https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2022/06/google-palm-ai-artificial-consciousness/661329/ 
>> <https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2022/06/google-palm-ai-artificial-consciousness/661329/>
>
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