[FRIAM] war footing

[Gillian Densmore]

LTT has a video on Hydrogen refueling. As they put it "it's cool...but at 5
dollar a liter (not quit a gallon) also super ********* expensive"

On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 10:37 AM Gillian Densmore <gil.densmore at gmail.com>
wrote:

> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> For cars Hydrogen, compressed air, mixed with electric. On paper (or
> plugged into a wall) is pretty cool as an idea...if we can, ya know, guild
> recharge stations similarly to how we build gas stations.
>
> Pardon the interruption though. But it's all fine and good to be
> perplexed, or triggered or what ever by Russia and the (former) eastern
> block. Going postal....
> Any plans to put the same energy into fixing super hard  problems at home?
> I hear that a lot of people are one paycheck from being homeless. and no
> one's going out to lobby the &&&&&&&& out of a Weekly allowance aka UBI.
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 10:32 AM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com>
> wrote:
>
>> One option is mixing hydrogen with natural gas to reduce how much needs
>> to be imported.   IMO there’s nothing that motivates progress in technology
>> than having a working production system that can be made incrementally
>> better (e.g. the 20 TB hard drives one can buy these days).   A production
>> ITER type system is still a long way off.   Note that Germany has its own
>> Stellarator platform that perhaps they could accelerate.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.offshore-energy.biz/germany-to-break-free-from-russian-gas-with-two-lng-terminals/
>>
>>
>> https://www.engie.com/en/businesses/gas/hydrogen/power-to-gas/the-grhyd-demonstration-project
>>
>> https://www.ipp.mpg.de/5125328/05_21?c=14226
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, time to abandon that gas station.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Roger Critchlow
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 2, 2022 9:08 AM
>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
>> Friam at redfish.com>
>> *Subject:* [FRIAM] war footing
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm thinking that a way to escalate our response to Putin, without
>> actually fighting him, is to build a "green war machine".  Start a crash
>> project to research, develop, and deliver the technology to liberate our
>> european allies from their energy dependencies on russian oil and gas.  And
>> everyone else as a side effect.
>>
>>
>>
>> That this is all stuff that we *cough* should be doing anyway is bonus
>> content.  But what we can't seem to do for the "right" reasons might be
>> easily done as a way to thwart an enemy who is so successfully making
>> himself the most reviled man of our age.
>>
>>
>>
>> Longer term, the economic effects of the sanctions, the social effects of
>> the ukrainian refugee crisis, and the demoralization of watching brute
>> force in action are going to hurt our side a lot.  That may be Putin's
>> actual endgame for the "operation" while he pretends to be Trump.   Better
>> to be doing something positive than to be waiting around to see how it
>> turns out.
>>
>>
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