[FRIAM] what's the view from Europe?

[Marcus Daniels]

It seems like the NATO wins any way you roll the dice:  1) Ukraine is destroyed and is an object lesson in why NATO is important, or 2) Ukraine holds on for a while and creates resistance within Russia or at least creates an economic disaster and weakens their ability to sustain their next outing, or 3) Ukraine pushes Russia out and becomes an EU and NATO member.   With China sympathetic to Russia, it seems more important to strengthen and expand NATO.

Furthermore, this is a great opportunity for Biden to play the statesman and to rally blood-and-soil Americans to a cause they can get their head around.
It’s great for the military industrial complex in the U.S. and in Europe.   Close to home in New Mexico:   B61 revision 12s, yes, those will be in demand.

From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy
Sent: Monday, March 7, 2022 9:11 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam at redfish.com>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] what's the view from Europe?

He's updated himself here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppD_bhWODDc

On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 9:18 PM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com<mailto:marcus at snoutfarm.com>> wrote:
From Mearsheimer’s argument, Ukrainian nationalism can drain Russian resources just like it did in Afghanistan.
On Mar 7, 2022, at 7:32 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb at gmail.com<mailto:sroy.mb at gmail.com>> wrote:

Yes,
Prof.John Mearsheimer is very insightful and balanced with a deep sense of history.
His Great Delusion lecture is also entertaining https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZVIaXFN2lU
In addition to the view from Europe, you may also be interested in the view from India https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzgPJeYZaOU
Sarbajit

On Sun, Mar 6, 2022 at 4:45 PM David Eric Smith <desmith at santafe.edu<mailto:desmith at santafe.edu>> wrote:
Let me post this link, without commentary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4

I can listen to it in at least three quite different frames, and it sounds starkly different in each from the others.  All three carry information.

Eric

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