[FRIAM] Enamine

Prof David West profwest at fastmail.fm
Wed Mar 9 17:18:12 EST 2022


The US claims to be giving the Ukraine government intel "in real time" but the Ukraine claims, and points to several examples, that often there is a lag of hours to as much as a day between our knowing something and transmitting it to the Ukraine.

davew


On Wed, Mar 9, 2022, at 11:44 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> Did NATO forget to pack surface-to-surface missiles in the goodie bag?    The US knows where the Russian artillery forces are, and are telling the Ukrainians, right?
> Why are they not yet Sunflowers?  It seems like the Russians are distracting everyone with these civilian attacks why they work for territory in the south.
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> Look at this CNN video. It shows an Ukrainian who has lost 5 family members because his home was struck by Russian missiles. The terror on his face is real. An innocent civilian who has lost everything: his family and his home. If this is not a war, then what is? It is a war of Putin against Ukraine because he feels threatened by the democracy there. He wants to submit the neighboring country to his authoritarian rule where his opponents are poisoned, shot or imprisoned. 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU3wJc9WmRI
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> -J.
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> From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb at gmail.com>
> Date: 3/9/22 19:31 (GMT+01:00)
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam at redfish.com>
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Enamine
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> Marcus if I can clarify some of this.
> The "West Ukrainian" people feel BETRAYED by Russia's attack on their country, As fraternal Slavs they did not expect it considering their past history with Russia.
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> Putin is making it clear that he is not targeting the Ukrainian people, per se, but the ZELENKSY regime personally. The "Z" stands for Zelenksy regime  which has incorporated "neo-Nazi" armed irregular divisions which fought the East Ukranians into the regular Ukranian army.
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> The Russian battle against these "Nazis" will be fought in Mariuopl and perhaps Odessa, and it will be extremely brutal and uncivilised.
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> Putin has also sent in mainly conscripts (although he denies it) elsewhere as (a) it bloodies them cheaply and b) they are less brutal than his hardened troops and foreign mercenaries who will be used in urban warfare assaults against the southern port cities.
> Lastly as a reminder, Putin was prepared for deaths of 150 of his own civilians to take out 40 hardcore Chechen rebels in the Oct 2002 opera house hostage crisis. Something unacceptable in the West.
> Sarbajit
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