[FRIAM] Getting Verbed...
Roger Critchlow
rec at elf.org
Tue Nov 8 08:49:29 EST 2022
Yes, I remember the look on Trump's face after the white house
correspondents dinner in 2011, and thinking that was one really pissed off
asshole. Googling the event brings up lots of articles that wonder about
that night as well as videos that let you relive the burn. This is why
we're taught not to do mean things, even when it seems to be the perfect
payback.
I've been thinking that this tsunami of resentment politics is our promised
age of leisure, we've become rich enough as a civilization that many
citizens finally have the time and means to engage in more refined
pursuits. Unfortunately the art of revenge is as refined as many of them
can imagine.
-- rec --
On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 9:06 PM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:
> After being a fly on the wall at SFI and similar places, this sounds
> exactly right to me. Nixon too.
>
> [image: original.jpg]
>
> Elon. Trump. Resentment.
> <https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2022/11/elon-trump-resentment/672030/>
> theatlantic.com
> <https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2022/11/elon-trump-resentment/672030/>
>
> <https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2022/11/elon-trump-resentment/672030/>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 7, 2022, at 1:58 PM, Gillian Densmore <gil.densmore at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Oh and SCOTUSed, the tech sector getting Biden'd and Demed. The Sunshine
> Protection act getting tantrum'd. Yes I will stay petty about the dems and
> the house have a chance to do *something * other than complain about
> other people and be in campaign mode all the time
> I get news'd a retarded poloticioned (so poloticion.) your a senator
> that's 900 years old acting like a 3 year old eh? congrats on being a waste
> of air.
>
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 2:47 PM Gillian Densmore <gil.densmore at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> You forgot getting Bushed twice.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 1:59 PM Steve Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We been Musked, we been Trumped, the Russians and Ukranians and much of
>>> Europe has been Putined and perhaps Balsinaro (and his followers have
>>> been sumarrily Lula'd)? One of the more satisfying targets for my own
>>> doomscrolling is to find examples of Corporate Execs and Republican
>>> AHoles being KatiePortered. SNL fans love watch loving people get
>>> McKinnoned.
>>>
>>> I'm probably just begging to get Ropella'd here...
>>>
>>> On 11/7/22 12:04 PM, glen wrote:
>>> > Musk *is* the joke. A joke of a person ... like we now use the verb
>>> Borked. "Musk" could be shorthand for Poe's Law, exquisitely explained in
>>> the recent Onion friend of the court filing.
>>> >
>>> > "You were totally Musked, man. It's not even bad faith. That guy
>>> couldn't joke his way out of a paper bag."
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On November 7, 2022 10:33:38 AM EST, Marcus Daniels <
>>> marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:
>>> >> Where’s the sense of humor now?
>>> >>
>>> >> <
>>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11397213/Musk-threatens-boot-Twitter-account-impersonators.html
>>> >
>>> >> [64260315-0-image-a-4_1667788476734.jpg]
>>> >> Musk threatens to boot Twitter account impersonators<
>>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11397213/Musk-threatens-boot-Twitter-account-impersonators.html
>>> >
>>> >> dailymail.co.uk<
>>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11397213/Musk-threatens-boot-Twitter-account-impersonators.html
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>>> >>
>>> >> On Nov 6, 2022, at 5:53 PM, glen <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> That you call Mastodon 'twitter-like' is discomforting. ActivityPub
>>> is fundamentally different.I guess the premature registration is
>>> reasonable, given the politics of the moment. But the 'fediverse' really is
>>> distributed, very unlike twitter. I really love that the Gab twits ported
>>> to Mastodon. That, unlike Musk's perverted conception, is a real example of
>>> free speech. You really are free to turn open source and open protocol to
>>> your weirdo subculture. We just don't have to link to you.
>>> >>
>>> >> Don't think 'twitter-like'. Think 'decentralized'.
>>> >>
>>> >> On November 6, 2022 5:51:40 PM EST, Steve Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Trying to understand BookWyrm vs StoryGraph vs GoodReads and Twitter
>>> vs Mastadon (and beyond), I found this aggregator of alternative
>>> recommendations:
>>> >>
>>> >> https://alternativeto.net/
>>> >>
>>> >> which doesn't necessarily solve anything, it just makes it obvious
>>> how challenging "too many choices" can be...
>>> >>
>>> >> After a lame attempt to go with Mastadon I decided to abandond
>>> Twitter-like things altogether. I doubt I will be willing to throw
>>> GoodReads over for anything else because of the participating base of my
>>> own personal/family network there. I can at least avoid clicking through
>>> a GoodReads recommendation to order from Amazon.
>>> >>
>>> >> https://alternativeto.net/software/bookwyrm/
>>> >>
>>> >> I haven't begun (tried?) to evaluate AlternativeTo.Net itself...
>>> >>
>>> >> Is this the tragedy of the "free market" (subset of "commons")?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 11/4/22 3:00 PM, glen wrote:
>>> >> I'd forgotten about this until the release yesterday:
>>> >>
>>> >> https://joinbookwyrm.com/
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 11/2/22 14:52, Steve Smith wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On 11/2/22 9:43 AM, Roger Critchlow wrote:
>>> >> Thanks, Glen.
>>> >>
>>> >> It would be nice if there were a public bibliographic reference url
>>> that one could use to name a book that only conveyed the thing in itself.
>>> Goodreads was that once, then Amazon bought them. Ditto for video and
>>> audio recordings and other objects of public interest.
>>> >>
>>> >> I admit to continuing to use Goodreads this way in spite of two
>>> problems... the Amazon affiliation/ownership of course, but also the too
>>> often spotty reviews... I don't provide many nor particularly good reviews
>>> myself, so I've no room to complain really.
>>> >>
>>> >> So I suppose I agree with your "public bibliographic reference url"
>>> point. It seems as if Wikipedia is a good candidate but I haven't done
>>> the work to understand how new entries are made... are they always required
>>> to be made by a citizen of the community who is NOT affiliated with the
>>> book (publisher, author, etc)? I find a *lot* of the books I seek in
>>> Wikipedia and prefer them for reference when their book-description (and
>>> cross links to related works, author, etc) are particularly apt, but that
>>> is also spotty. I use Goodreads mostly to follow what family/friends are
>>> reading and what *they* think of their reads.
>>> >>
>>> >> The trend toward crowd-sourced public-use corpii being acquired by
>>> private interests (even public corporations are private interests) is
>>> disturbing (FB <-Mapillary, Amazon<-Goodreads)... Twitter->BoringCo, etc)
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Eugenia Cheng has other books and a pile of youtube videos.
>>> Interestingly, her primary institutional affiliation is the Art Institute
>>> of Chicago, where as resident scientist she teaches math to art students.
>>> She has a public reading for kids scheduled in Jersey City this month. Her
>>> definition of category theory is "the mathematics of mathematics" which she
>>> expands as "the logical study of the logical study of logical things."
>>> >>
>>> >> Hasok Chang has a third book, Is Water H2O, which Amazon fails to
>>> index on his amazon author page, though it is on amazon at a blistering
>>> price in every available format. I found a pdf on the internets. It's
>>> details the history of working out the chemical identity of water. Two
>>> themes are that 1) the consensus answers to scientific questions often
>>> change in anticipation of the arrival of corroboration, 2) there are often
>>> multiple acceptable answers to scientific questions. These are possibly
>>> consequences of being a realisitic realist.
>>> >>
>>> >> Interesting set of recursions... we CS types tend to love our
>>> arbitrary-depth recursion, but the special cases like double-negatives, and
>>> Rummy's unkown unknowns and now Chang's logical logicologoy of logics and
>>> realistic realists are ... *special*? While some may prefer "turtles all
>>> the way down" sometimes just a few turtles deep suffices?
>>> >>
>>> >> - Steve
>>> >>
>>> >> PS... couldn't help hearing/reading "Cheech&Chong" on the first
>>> reading of this thread.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> -- rec --
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 9:57 AM glen <gepropella at gmail.com><mailto:
>>> gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> There. I fixed that for you. 8^D
>>> >>
>>> >> On 11/1/22 19:36, Roger Critchlow wrote:
>>> >> > Interesting visit with my old boss/friend today, he mentioned
>>> some books of interest, and while looking for them I discovered yet another
>>> book.
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-joy-of-abstraction-an-exploration-of-math-category-theory-and-life-eugenia-cheng/18557720?ean=9781108477222
>>> >>
>>> >> > Exploration-Category-Theory/dp/1108477224>
>>> >> > Eugenia Cheng, The Joy of Abstraction: An Exploration of Math,
>>> Category Theory, and Life, published October 2022.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > A presentation of category theory that keeps the underlying
>>> algebra basic.
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> https://bookshop.org/p/books/inventing-temperature-measurement-and-scientific-progress-hasok-chang/9513488?ean=9780195337389
>>> >>
>>> >> > Hasok Chang, Inventing Temperature: Measurement and Scientific
>>> Progress
>>> >> >
>>> >> > An itemized history of temperature and all the wrong turns
>>> taken along the way, more detail than even the author cares to read again.
>>> Poetic justice to examine the operation of the pragmatist's ratchet and
>>> pawl over the centuries as it rescues workable definitions of temperature
>>> from thermal confusion.
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> https://bookshop.org/p/books/realism-for-realistic-people-a-new-pragmatist-philosophy-of-science-hasok-chang/18368583?ean=9781108470384
>>> >>
>>> >> > Hasok Chang, Realism for Realistic People: A New Pragmatist
>>> Philosophy of Science, available on kindle on November 30, 2022.
>>> >> >
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