[FRIAM] Thuram still happening?

Prof David West profwest at fastmail.fm
Wed Feb 15 15:24:13 EST 2023


I will be traveling to Wisconsin tomorrow and miss Thuram.

2-cents: a word cloud might be a more useful metaphor than a semantic net, just because of the formalisms employed in the latter. True a cloud lacks explicit links, but such might be lightly sprinkled therein.

Did a huge double take at the last word in Nick's post. CBT, in one of the communities I associate with, has a far different meaning than, I think, Nick intended. And I would be 'they' used it first.

davew


On Wed, Feb 15, 2023, at 11:19 AM, thompnickson2 at gmail.com wrote:
> FWiW, I willmake every effort to arrive fed to Thuam by 10.30 Mountain.  I want to hear the experts among you hold forth on WTF a cateogory actually IS.  I am thinking (duh) that a category is a more or less diffuse node in a network of associations (signs, if you must).  Hence they constitute a vast table of what goes with what, what is predictable from what, etc.  This accommodates “family resemblance”  quite nicely.  Do I think animals have categories, in this sense, ABSOLUTELY EFFING YES. Does this make me a (shudder) nominalist?  I hope not. 
> Words…nouns in particular… confuse this category business.  Words place constraints on how vague these nodes can be.   They impose on the network constraints to which it is ill suited.  True, the more my associations with “horse” line up with your associations with “horse”, the more true the horse seems.  Following Peirce, I would say that where our nodes increasingly correspond with increasing shared experience, we have evidence ot the (ultimate) truth of the nodes, their “reality” in Peirce’s terms.  Here is where I am striving to hang on to Peirce’s realism. 
> The reason I want the geeks to participate tomorrow is that I keep thinking of a semantic webby thing that Steve devised for the Institute about a decade ago.   Now a semantic web would be a kind of metaphor for an associative web; don’t associate with other words in exactly the same manner in which experiences associate with other experiences.  Still, I think the metaphor is interesting.  Also, I am kind of re-interested in my “authorial voice”, how much it operates like cbt.
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> Rushing,
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> Nick
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> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Eric Charles
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2023 10:29 AM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam at redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Thuram still happening?
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> Well shoot..... that would do it.... Thank you! 
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> On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 12:28 PM Frank Wimberly <wimberly3 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Today is Wednesday, isn't it?
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>> Santa Fe, NM 87505
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>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2023, 10:19 AM Eric Charles <eric.phillip.charles at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Are the Thursday online meetings still happening? I missed a few weeks due to work piling up meetings on, but I'm trying to log in now, and it looks like the meeting hasn't started. 
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