[FRIAM] ChatGPT knows FRIAM

Steve Smith sasmyth at swcp.com
Tue Feb 21 17:50:54 EST 2023


I'd say ChatGPT knows FriAM at least as well as Dr. Strangelove 
<http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/> does ( though he's been pretty easy 
on us the last few years ).

I found myself trying to parse bits of ChatGPT's response.

To begin, not only do I not know of any project or effort at SFI 
entitled "Focusing Research on Infinite Automated Models" but Dr. Google 
doesn't seem to have found any reference to such a group. This makes me 
think that ChatGPT recognized FRIAM as an acronym and fished around in 
the concept-linguistic-space of the *prominent* scientific institution 
(SFI) related Santa Fe.   I don't know what to think about how it parsed 
out "Infinite Automated" into "infinite dimensional" models?   The whole 
passage suggests to me that ChatGPT's prime goal Is in fact to generate 
*credible* or *plausable* narratives rather than accurate ones?

Fascinating that the specific binding of specifically named FriAM 
luminaries to specific roles at specific institutions associated with 
Santa Fe.  Without doing the research to find Dopplynms within those 
organizations, I'm pretty sure that at least Wimberly and Ropella are 
uncommon enough names so as not to have parallels at LANL and 
Descartes.   This supports my feeling that ChatGPT is tuned for 
"plausability" over other utility functions...

This aligns with the implications of Glen's reference to the distinction 
between bullshitting and lying.   ChatGPT is a definitely a strident 
bullshitter.  But then most scriptwriters, showrunners, and directors in 
Hollywood and too many politicians can be considered that way as well?

The general conception of FriAM as a rolling group of participants is at 
least superficially accurate, though I don't see that we have that much 
turnover, nor does ChatGPT seem to recognize that our physical meetups 
are/were the tip of the iceberg (tail of the dog) for the last umpteen 
years...

Also without looking I didn't know that there is a Nick Thompson who is 
Editor-in-Chief of Wired, but take it for granted that this level of 
specificity in the face of Wired Mag. being not particularly correlated 
with Santa Fe suggests there IS and the BS factor comes in by being 
willing to *assert* that these are the same Nick Thompson's with only 
the thinnest of circumstantial evidence.

The Eric Charles reference also seems specific enough to suggest that 
there is a true dopplenym there.

I was surprised by the error-of-attribution ChatGPT made to itself, 
accusing itself of transposing "Vital" with "Mental" rather than to Jochen?

Very well curated, interesting and relevant ChatGPT anecdote Jochen!


> Me: Do you know the FRIAM group in Santa Fe?
> ChatGPT: Yes, I'm aware of the FRIAM group in Santa Fe. FRIAM 
> (Focusing Research on Infinite Automated Models) is a research group 
> located at the Santa Fe Institute, a renowned research center 
> dedicated to the study of complex systems. FRIAM is a group of 
> interdisciplinary researchers who explore the use of mathematical 
> models and computational methods to understand complex systems and 
> phenomena, with a focus on infinite-dimensional systems. The group's 
> research interests include dynamical systems, machine learning, 
> optimization, and more. FRIAM's work has contributed to a deeper 
> understanding of various systems, such as financial markets, climate 
> models, and biological systems, among others.
>
> Me: No, I mean the Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group. It 
> is organization of complexity researchers and software developers in 
> Santa Fe, New Mexico, interested in applied complexity
>
> ChatGPT: I apologize for the confusion. Yes, I'm also aware of the 
> Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group in Santa Fe. It is a 
> group of complexity researchers and software developers who meet on 
> Friday mornings to discuss and explore topics related to applied 
> complexity. The group is open to anyone who is interested in the 
> subject and is often attended by researchers, academics, 
> entrepreneurs, and professionals from a variety of fields. The 
> discussions at the group cover a wide range of topics, including 
> complex systems, data science, artificial intelligence, and more. The 
> group provides a forum for members to share their ideas and learn from 
> each other in an informal setting over a cup of coffee. The Friday 
> Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group is one of many examples of the 
> vibrant intellectual community in Santa Fe dedicated to the study of 
> complex systems.
>
> Me: Can you name some active members?
>
> ChatGPT: I'm sorry, but as an artificial intelligence language model, 
> I don't have access to real-time information on the current membership 
> of the Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group. The group is a 
> community of complexity researchers and software developers in Santa 
> Fe who meet on a regular basis to discuss and explore topics related 
> to applied complexity. The membership of the group is fluid, with new 
> members joining and others moving on as their interests and 
> circumstances change. If you are interested in learning more about the 
> group, you might be able to find more information on their website or 
> through social media channels. Alternatively, you could try reaching 
> out to the Santa Fe Institute, which has connections with many 
> researchers and organizations in the Santa Fe area.
>
> Me: Nicholas Thompson, Eric Charles, Glen Ropella and Frank Wimberly 
> are part of this group. What do you know about them?
>
> ChatGPT: Nicholas Thompson is the Editor-in-Chief of Wired Magazine, 
> which covers a wide range of topics related to technology, science, 
> and culture. Prior to his current position at Wired, he was a senior 
> editor at the magazine and worked as a reporter for The New Yorker and 
> Legal Times. Thompson is also the author of "The Hawk and the Dove: 
> Paul Nitze, George Kennan, and the History of the Cold War," a book 
> that explores the history of the Cold War through the lives of two of 
> its most prominent strategists.
>
> Eric Charles is the Vice President of Engineering at Descartes Labs, a 
> geospatial data analytics company that leverages machine learning and 
> artificial intelligence to analyze satellite imagery and other types 
> of data. Charles has a background in computer science and has worked 
> in various engineering and leadership roles at several technology 
> companies, including Intel, Sun Microsystems, and Google.
>
> Glen Ropella is a computer scientist and engineer who has worked on a 
> variety of projects related to computational modeling, artificial 
> intelligence, and machine learning. He is currently a Senior Scientist 
> at Los Alamos National Laboratory, where he is involved in research on 
> complex systems and their applications to national security and other 
> areas.
>
> Frank Wimberly is a software engineer and entrepreneur who has worked 
> in various roles in the technology industry, including as a software 
> engineer at Yahoo and as the founder of a startup focused on data 
> analytics. He is currently the CTO of Descartes Labs, where he leads 
> the company's efforts to develop and apply advanced machine learning 
> and artificial intelligence techniques to geospatial data.
>
> It's worth noting that while these individuals have been associated 
> with the Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group at some point, 
> their involvement with the group may have changed over time, as the 
> group's membership is fluid and changes over time.
>
> Me: The Nicholas Thompson I mean was Professor of Psychology and 
> Biology at Clark University. Do you know his work, for example his 
> paper "Intentionality is the Mark of the Vital" ?
>
> ChatGPT: I apologize for the confusion. I was referring to a different 
> person with the same name, Nicholas Thompson, who is the 
> Editor-in-Chief of Wired Magazine.
>
> Regarding the Nicholas Thompson who is a Professor of Psychology and 
> Biology at Clark University, I am familiar with his work. Thompson is 
> a prominent researcher in the fields of cognitive neuroscience and 
> philosophy of mind. His paper "Intentionality is the Mark of the 
> Mental" (not "Intentionality is the Mark of the Vital," as I 
> previously stated) is a classic paper in the philosophy of mind, in 
> which he argues that intentionality, or the capacity of mental states 
> to represent or be about things, is a key characteristic of the mental.
>
> Thompson has made important contributions to the study of neural 
> processes involved in perception, attention, and consciousness. He has 
> also written on the relationship between neuroscience and philosophy, 
> arguing for a "naturalized" approach to philosophy of mind that takes 
> into account empirical findings from neuroscience and related fields. 
> Thompson's work is highly regarded in both the philosophical and 
> scientific communities, and he has published extensively in both areas.
>
> -J.
>
>
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