[FRIAM] ChatGPT knows FRIAM

Roger Critchlow rec at elf.org
Fri Feb 24 10:01:09 EST 2023


Watched Wolfram's entry in the um6p complexity slam last night.  At the end
of his talk he argues that the Chat GPT epiphany is evidence that language
has shallow computational complexity.  We're surprised because we imagined
it was deep and irreducible, but we just kept spreading the data and it
finally all snapped into focus.  And the "deep learning" labelling confuses
the issue.  Yes, they're architecturally deep neural nets, but it's really
a very simple computation being done over and over again.  It's not deep as
in profound, it's deep because we needed somewhere to stack all the layers.

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On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 7:22 AM Eric Charles <eric.phillip.charles at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I am particularly impressed that at the end there it doubled down on
> having the *wrong *title for Nick's publication.
>
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>
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 4:20 PM <thompnickson2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Stunning!  How do you know if ChatCBT is lying; it’s steely lips are
>> moving.
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Jochen Fromm
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2023 1:23 PM
>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
>> friam at redfish.com>
>> *Subject:* [FRIAM] ChatGPT knows FRIAM
>>
>>
>>
>> Me: Do you know the FRIAM group in Santa Fe?
>>
>>
>>
>> ChatGPT: Yes, I'm aware of the FRIAM group in Santa Fe. FRIAM (Focusing
>> Research on Infinite Automated Models) is a research group located at the
>> Santa Fe Institute, a renowned research center dedicated to the study of
>> complex systems. FRIAM is a group of interdisciplinary researchers who
>> explore the use of mathematical models and computational methods to
>> understand complex systems and phenomena, with a focus on
>> infinite-dimensional systems. The group's research interests include
>> dynamical systems, machine learning, optimization, and more. FRIAM's work
>> has contributed to a deeper understanding of various systems, such as
>> financial markets, climate models, and biological systems, among others.
>>
>>
>>
>> Me: No, I mean the Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group. It is
>> organization of complexity researchers and software developers in Santa Fe,
>> New Mexico, interested in applied complexity
>>
>>
>>
>> ChatGPT: I apologize for the confusion. Yes, I'm also aware of the Friday
>> Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group in Santa Fe. It is a group of
>> complexity researchers and software developers who meet on Friday mornings
>> to discuss and explore topics related to applied complexity. The group is
>> open to anyone who is interested in the subject and is often attended by
>> researchers, academics, entrepreneurs, and professionals from a variety of
>> fields. The discussions at the group cover a wide range of topics,
>> including complex systems, data science, artificial intelligence, and more.
>> The group provides a forum for members to share their ideas and learn from
>> each other in an informal setting over a cup of coffee. The Friday Morning
>> Applied Complexity Coffee Group is one of many examples of the vibrant
>> intellectual community in Santa Fe dedicated to the study of complex
>> systems.
>>
>>
>>
>> Me: Can you name some active members?
>>
>>
>>
>> ChatGPT: I'm sorry, but as an artificial intelligence language model, I
>> don't have access to real-time information on the current membership of the
>> Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group. The group is a community of
>> complexity researchers and software developers in Santa Fe who meet on a
>> regular basis to discuss and explore topics related to applied complexity.
>> The membership of the group is fluid, with new members joining and others
>> moving on as their interests and circumstances change. If you are
>> interested in learning more about the group, you might be able to find more
>> information on their website or through social media channels.
>> Alternatively, you could try reaching out to the Santa Fe Institute, which
>> has connections with many researchers and organizations in the Santa Fe
>> area.
>>
>>
>>
>> Me: Nicholas Thompson, Eric Charles, Glen Ropella and Frank Wimberly are
>> part of this group. What do you know about them?
>>
>>
>>
>> ChatGPT: Nicholas Thompson is the Editor-in-Chief of Wired Magazine,
>> which covers a wide range of topics related to technology, science, and
>> culture. Prior to his current position at Wired, he was a senior editor at
>> the magazine and worked as a reporter for The New Yorker and Legal Times.
>> Thompson is also the author of "The Hawk and the Dove: Paul Nitze, George
>> Kennan, and the History of the Cold War," a book that explores the history
>> of the Cold War through the lives of two of its most prominent strategists.
>>
>>
>>
>> Eric Charles is the Vice President of Engineering at Descartes Labs, a
>> geospatial data analytics company that leverages machine learning and
>> artificial intelligence to analyze satellite imagery and other types of
>> data. Charles has a background in computer science and has worked in
>> various engineering and leadership roles at several technology companies,
>> including Intel, Sun Microsystems, and Google.
>>
>>
>>
>> Glen Ropella is a computer scientist and engineer who has worked on a
>> variety of projects related to computational modeling, artificial
>> intelligence, and machine learning. He is currently a Senior Scientist at
>> Los Alamos National Laboratory, where he is involved in research on complex
>> systems and their applications to national security and other areas.
>>
>>
>>
>> Frank Wimberly is a software engineer and entrepreneur who has worked in
>> various roles in the technology industry, including as a software engineer
>> at Yahoo and as the founder of a startup focused on data analytics. He is
>> currently the CTO of Descartes Labs, where he leads the company's efforts
>> to develop and apply advanced machine learning and artificial intelligence
>> techniques to geospatial data.
>>
>>
>>
>> It's worth noting that while these individuals have been associated with
>> the Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group at some point, their
>> involvement with the group may have changed over time, as the group's
>> membership is fluid and changes over time.
>>
>>
>>
>> Me: The Nicholas Thompson I mean was Professor of Psychology and Biology
>> at Clark University. Do you know his work, for example his paper
>> "Intentionality is the Mark of the Vital" ?
>>
>>
>>
>> ChatGPT: I apologize for the confusion. I was referring to a different
>> person with the same name, Nicholas Thompson, who is the Editor-in-Chief of
>> Wired Magazine.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regarding the Nicholas Thompson who is a Professor of Psychology and
>> Biology at Clark University, I am familiar with his work. Thompson is a
>> prominent researcher in the fields of cognitive neuroscience and philosophy
>> of mind. His paper "Intentionality is the Mark of the Mental" (not
>> "Intentionality is the Mark of the Vital," as I previously stated) is a
>> classic paper in the philosophy of mind, in which he argues that
>> intentionality, or the capacity of mental states to represent or be about
>> things, is a key characteristic of the mental.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thompson has made important contributions to the study of neural
>> processes involved in perception, attention, and consciousness. He has also
>> written on the relationship between neuroscience and philosophy, arguing
>> for a "naturalized" approach to philosophy of mind that takes into account
>> empirical findings from neuroscience and related fields. Thompson's work is
>> highly regarded in both the philosophical and scientific communities, and
>> he has published extensively in both areas.
>>
>>
>>
>> -J.
>>
>>
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