[FRIAM] From Merle--AI News
Steve Smith
sasmyth at swcp.com
Mon Jun 19 12:25:22 EDT 2023
glen wrote:
> IDK. The implication that we already have laws that cover (80%?) of
> the use cases for new tech we, as a society, want to discourage, is a
> good default. It resists the "there ought to be a law" sensibility
> held by old people and curmudgeons everywhere. And it keeps our legal
> system a little more adaptive than it would be were we to burden it
> with even more persnickety case-by-case rulings.
>
>
I share your feeling that "there oughtta be a law!" is a red-herring,
though I don't know about it being that tightly coupled with "old
people"... my experience is that people whose experiences and
sensibilities which are much different from mine are more apt to express
those sentiments, but I think this related to confirmation bias. If
they are shaking their fist with "there oughtta be a law!" sentiments
about something I feel the same way about it goes right past me, but if
it is somehow "off" from my alignments it grates. I find young people
(when I was in HS, my civics/history/government/etc classes were filled
with them) full of the more egregious phrase "that's ILLEGAL!" in place
of "that OFFENDS ME!". I try to hear "there oughtta be a law" as
pining for a new and relevant heuristic where the old one(s) don't work
(well)?
> The point being that behaviorism is insidious. You are not a shallow
> narrative comprising Instagram "stories" in the same way ChatGPT is
> not an organism. But it's not merely behaviorism. There's a similar
> problem with the concept of an integrated personality
> <https://dictionary.apa.org/integration>.
I identify as a self-organized/ing complex adaptive system coupled with
other complex systems in such a way as to be an all-subsuming (read
panpsychic) system of systems (nearly-decomposable in Herb Simon's
sensibilites). Or in Schwietzer's sensibilities: "I am life which
wills to live amongst life which wills to live". Does the biosphere of
Earth "will to live"? (and in the image of Gaia, does it nurture us, or
in the image of Medea, does it seek to shed itself of the blight which
is us?) How about the solar system or the galaxies or galactic
clusters? Maybe not even as much as a jellyfish or an amoeba does...
but not less than a grain of sand or am molecule or an interstellar photon?
Depending on the focus/locus of my awareness in a given moment, I am
likely identified differently... like whether I'm having coffee with an
old friend, looking through a telescope or microscope, or blathering on
on FriAM... an analog to glen's "homunculii"? I think I can be
episodic and diachronic, or is it only an episodic identity who can
actually imagine both while diachronics are forever shut off from the
experience of being episodic? Or is it an illusion like "free will"
(pervasive and undeniable, yet nevertheless an illusion)?
Is this not the point of holidays like Juneteenth (not formed but maybe
exploited by Hallmark?), to focus our awareness (and therefore
identity?) on a subset of "life which wills to live" that we normally do
not (fathers day, juneteenth, independence day, thanksgiving, new years,
etc.)?
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