[FRIAM] George on Rossby Waves and Frontogenesis
Frank Wimberly
wimberly3 at gmail.com
Tue Apr 30 13:57:51 EDT 2024
George who? I'm sorry, I must have missed something.
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Frank C. Wimberly
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On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, 11:28 AM Nicholas Thompson <thompnickson2 at gmail.com>
wrote:
> *Dear Phellow Phriamers,*
>
>
> *What I love about George is that he speaks what others have in the backs
> of heir minds but seem reluctant to say. So I have been reading in weather
> books and articles for weeks, trying to work out the chicken/egg relation
> between global-scale and synoptic-scale processes. None of those sources
> has put the relation so plainly as does George below. Of course he may be
> absurdly, flagrantly, ridiculously WRONG, but at least he has put it out
> there. George seems to be good at discovering subtexts. Think what he
> might do for psycho-analysis.*
>
> *Rossby waves, of course, are not only E-W waves along the polar front,
> they are also up/down waves along the boundary between the Troposphere and
> the Stratosphere, the Tropopause, so that in a Rossby trough, the
> Tropopause is much closer to the ground than in a Rossby ridge. *
>
>
> *George also believes that Rossby waves often stumble over mountain ranges
> and continental boundaries. When they stumble, they often break, sending
> Tropospheric air into the Stratosphere, and bringing Stratospheric air into
> the Troposphere, perhaps even as far down as the surface. You know that
> rush of odd-smelling air you get at the onset of a cold front? That may be
> stratospheric air. *
>
>
> 1. *Anyway: FWIW, here is George on Rossby Wavess and Frontogenesis. * *I
> hope to join vFRIAM on Thursday around 11 MDT, in case there are other
> weather nerds on the list who would like to talk about this. *
>
>
>
> *Nick*
>
> *What is the relation between Rossby waves and frontogenesis*
>
> *Rossby waves and frontogenesis are closely related atmospheric phenomena,
> with Rossby waves playing a significant role in the generation and
> maintenance of fronts through the process of frontogenesis. Here's how
> they're connected:*
>
> 1.
>
> *Dynamic Instability: Rossby waves are large-scale meanders in the jet
> stream that develop due to the interaction between the Earth's rotation and
> horizontal temperature gradients in the atmosphere. These waves are
> associated with dynamic instability in the atmosphere, leading to the
> amplification and propagation of disturbances along the jet stream.*
> 2.
>
> *Formation of Temperature Contrasts: Rossby waves often lead to the
> development of regions with strong horizontal temperature gradients, known
> as baroclinic zones, along their troughs and ridges. These temperature
> contrasts are essential for frontogenesis, as they provide the necessary
> conditions for the formation and intensification of fronts.*
> 3.
>
> *Enhanced Vertical Motion: Along the troughs of Rossby waves, there is
> typically enhanced upward motion of air, while along the ridges, there is
> enhanced downward motion. This vertical motion is associated with the
> convergence and divergence of air masses, respectively, which can
> contribute to the formation of fronts through the process of frontogenesis.*
> 4.
>
> *Interaction with Baroclinic Zones: Rossby waves interact with
> existing baroclinic zones in the atmosphere, which are regions of strong
> horizontal temperature gradients. These interactions can lead to the
> amplification or deformation of existing fronts and the generation of new
> fronts through frontogenesis.*
> 5.
>
> *Development of Cyclogenesis: Rossby waves can also contribute to the
> development of cyclones, particularly in regions where there are strong
> temperature gradients associated with fronts. Cyclogenesis often occurs
> along frontal boundaries, where the convergence of air masses and enhanced
> vertical motion associated with Rossby waves create favorable conditions
> for low-pressure systems to develop.*
>
> *Overall, Rossby waves influence the development and maintenance of fronts
> through the generation of temperature contrasts, enhanced vertical motion,
> and interactions with existing baroclinic zones. Frontogenesis, in turn,
> contributes to the intensification and evolution of cyclones and other
> weather systems associated with the mid-latitude atmosphere.*
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