[FRIAM] Bad news about the climate

[Jochen Fromm]

Yes, a good high speed railway network would be able to reduce air traffic. France for instance has banned short-haul domestic flights in favor of train travelhttps://www.euronews.com/green/2022/12/02/is-france-banning-private-jets-everything-we-know-from-a-week-of-green-transport-proposalsIf this railway map is accurate, then the railway network in the US is much more sparse than in the EU or in China. Has it been neglected in favor of automobiles and airplanes?https://flowingdata.com/2024/01/30/world-railway-map/-J.
-------- Original message --------From: Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com> Date: 1/30/24  4:34 PM  (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam at redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Bad news about the climate The U.S. could develop high speed rail to avoid use of aircraft.   Aircraft could be based on H2.   Because of the low specific gravity of H2, that would mean devoting more space to storage of H2.  That would increase the price, which itself is a fine way to moderate use of air travel and gratuitous transportation. -----Original Message-----From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of glenSent: Tuesday, January 30, 2024 7:15 AMTo: friam at redfish.comSubject: Re: [FRIAM] Bad news about the climateYeah, I'm not so sure that's the right tack. I mean, airlines (and airplane mfgs) aren't the most earth friendly enterprises, at their core. Even if we could magically swap out a zero emissions fuel (which we can't: https://www.wri.org/insights/us-sustainable-aviation-fuel-emissions-impacts), we will still see door plugs popping out because we can't be bothered to check every little nook and cranny just to save a few measly human lives. (Why do we freak out so much when an airplane goes down? So many more people die horribly in other circumstances.)This entitled fetish we have for synchronous meatspace interactions makes for a more efficient target. Powering your internet bandwidth with more sustainable electricity is way more likely to reduce emissions than biofuel ever will.On 1/29/24 19:20, Leigh Fanning wrote:> At some point we'll have SAF at scale.> > https://www.energy.gov/eere/bioenergy/sustainable-aviation-fuels> -- ꙮ Mɥǝu ǝlǝdɥɐuʇs ɟᴉƃɥʇ' ʇɥǝ ƃɹɐss snɟɟǝɹs˙ ꙮ-. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. .FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listservFridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe   /   Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriamto (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.comFRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/archives:  5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/  1/2003 thru 6/2021  http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/-. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. .FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listservFridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe   /   Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriamto (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.comFRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/archives:  5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/  1/2003 thru 6/2021  http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
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