<div dir="ltr"><div>I do not know if Alan Kay created the term object in the context of programming but he was a pioneer of OOP when created Smalltalk. These are few paragraphs where Kay is cited in relation to the term object and concept is explained. <br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.yegor256.com/2017/12/12/alan-kay-was-wrong.html">https://www.yegor256.com/2017/12/12/alan-kay-was-wrong.html</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Felicidades para todos. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 10:19 PM, Marcus Daniels <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com" target="_blank">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">One can also have procedures bound to types where the procedures are pure. <br>
OOP does not imply methods that have privileged access to state, although this is common with languages like C++ and Java.<br>
In contrast, a method (or type bound procedure) can have privileged access to the meaning of state when state is provided (as an argument).<br>
Haskell basically requires this approach and Fortran 2008 facilitates it.<br>
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On 7/17/18, 9:05 PM, "Friam on behalf of Russell Standish" <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a> on behalf of <a href="mailto:lists@hpcoders.com.au">lists@hpcoders.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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Not sure about "utility"/"tool", but an object is distinguished from a<br>
function by having state. Call an object's method, and the method's<br>
scope is populated by the object's data members, which of course,<br>
differ from object to object.<br>
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By contrast a function either has no state (pure function), or its<br>
state is global (same for every function invocation).<br>
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Cheers<br>
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