<div dir="ltr"><div>AAAAAH Ok thanks steve!</div><div>I (hope) I haven't been hiding trying different ways to get in shape. Just to make sure what the guides sugested (as I only have one scarf) to show a little early wich is just done anyway for a new club. and wet it with cold waterdrape over my head for a a  little bit. Then re wet the scarf. I thought with long hair or something a bit of tap cool water in the hair and on my head may help in someway.</div><div>The scarf around a neck trick is a oldish but helps. Some even look cool for example mine has a print of a nebula in purple. I have no idea wich one. though</div><div>Alas hovering around 240 depending on the scale I ask, that's still  a bit to go. I want to shoot for being and staying at 225-230 at least. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 6:08 PM Steven A Smith <<a href="mailto:sasmyth@swcp.com" target="_blank">sasmyth@swcp.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
  <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
    <p>Gil -</p>
    <p>There is always a lot of blood flow between the heart and the
      brain which passes through the neck, fairly close to the skin.  
      Among the many things blood does, is act as a working fluid to try
      to help thermoregulate the body...   passing hot blood near the
      surface of the skin where evaporation of sweat is cooling the
      skin...  The neck would be an obvious place to apply extra
      external cooling efficiently.   <br>
    </p>
    <p>As with a cool cloth on the head, I think there is a perception
      issue involved, meaning that when you are overheated, cooling the
      region of your body you associate with "self", likely *feels*
      better than say, cooling your feet or your glutes...  provides
      quicker apparent relief.</p>
    <p>I'm aware of the type of fabric you speak of, but have never used
      or inspected any.  I'm assuming it somehow manages to *both* hold
      enough water to not evaporate away immediately but at the same
      time, have enough surface area (microstructure) to allow for a lot
      of transpiration.   Why "snapping" it abruptly works to
      (re)improve it's cooling potential isn't as obvious to me, I'm
      betting it has been written up many times in everything from the
      popular press to academic journals in material science... time to
      practice more Google-Fu?</p>
    <p>- Steve<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div class="m_-4600432815113237931m_-4851407796392153750moz-cite-prefix">On 7/19/18 3:58 PM, Gillian Densmore
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      
      <div dir="ltr">Preface: I am not a fan of email...in it's current
        form.  I have some pretty good notions to why. I will respect
        the mods and leave it their.
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>However, Mr. Homes yes! that is part of wonderful sense of
          curiusity why they are so helpful and why you can get some to
          refresh some... A shirt made sense I thought (it's got a lot
          of it to it)</div>
        <div>But basically bit of swim suit material around my neck
          helping? oO So...just out of curiosity I thought: let me ask!</div>
        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 8:40 AM,
            Robert Holmes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:robert@robertholmes.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">robert@robertholmes.org</a>></span>
            wrote:<br>
            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
              <div dir="ltr">If you really want to blow your mind,
                consider these mesh cooling towels: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y4RW17N/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.<wbr>com/gp/product/B06Y4RW17N/ref=<wbr>oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=<wbr>UTF8&psc=1</a>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>When you've been wearing it for a while and it has
                  warmed up, you take it off, give it a sharp "snap",
                  and it's immediately cold again.</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>I use one when the temperature is getting high in
                  my (non-air-conditioned) house and it works a treat.</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>—R</div>
              </div>
              <br>
              <div class="gmail_quote">
                <div dir="ltr">On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 9:30 PM Gillian
                  Densmore <<a href="mailto:gil.densmore@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">gil.densmore@gmail.com</a>>
                  wrote:<br>
                </div>
                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                  <div dir="ltr">
                    <div>AHA! googlefu skills worked better this time.
                      Something to do with with the neck (for example)
                      helps with body heat and the wraps let off cold
                      water...</div>
                    <div>I guess I just don't understand how something
                      that small can help cool you down. So I just
                      thought I'd ask what the science might be</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                    <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at
                      9:00 PM, Gary Schiltz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gary@naturesvisualarts.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">gary@naturesvisualarts.com</a>></span>
                      wrote:<br>
                      <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                        <div dir="ltr">Are you getting overheated during
                          class? I would assume that your teacher is
                          suggesting this as a way to help keep cool.
                          Evaporative cooling is especially effective in
                          dry climates like Santa Fe. See <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evaporative_cooler" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/<wbr>wiki/Evaporative_cooler</a>.</div>
                        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                          <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 17, 2018
                            at 9:29 PM, Gillian Densmore <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gil.densmore@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">gil.densmore@gmail.com</a>></span>
                            wrote:<br>
                            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                              <div dir="ltr">I has a science question. I
                                trying out doing more excersize. In one
                                of my zumba classes a teacher sugested I
                                try a wet towel on my head (before
                                class) and then a wet scare around my
                                neck during class.
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>I feel as my googlefu skills are
                                  failing because I can't find a reason
                                  why that helps. Anyone know what the
                                  science is? </div>
                                <div>LifeHacker and a pretty dated
                                  StackScience blurb speculated it has
                                  to do with having just enough gold
                                  water (relative to the hot air neer
                                  your body) to somehow make  kind of
                                  cool air zone.</div>
                                <div>Somehow how I am...skeptical </div>
                                <div>Cooling of your head makes sense
                                  (hair  gets wet and you cold water on
                                  your head just feels really good in
                                  the summer)</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>But I don't get  why cold towel or
                                  scarf around your neck can help.</div>
                              </div>
                              <br>
                              ==============================<wbr>==============================<br>
                              FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<br>
                              Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St.
                              John's College<br>
                              to unsubscribe <a href="http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://redfish.com/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/friam_redfish.com</a><br>
                              FRIAM-COMIC <a href="http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://friam-comic.blogspot.<wbr>com/</a>
                              by Dr. Strangelove<br>
                              <br>
                            </blockquote>
                          </div>
                          <br>
                        </div>
                        <br>
                        ==============================<wbr>==============================<br>
                        FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<br>
                        Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's
                        College<br>
                        to unsubscribe <a href="http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://redfish.com/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/friam_redfish.com</a><br>
                        FRIAM-COMIC <a href="http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://friam-comic.blogspot.<wbr>com/</a>
                        by Dr. Strangelove<br>
                        <br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </div>
                    <br>
                  </div>
                  ==============================<wbr>==============================<br>
                  FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<br>
                  Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College<br>
                  to unsubscribe <a href="http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://redfish.com/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/friam_redfish.com</a><br>
                  FRIAM-COMIC <a href="http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://friam-comic.blogspot.<wbr>com/</a>
                  by Dr. Strangelove<br>
                </blockquote>
              </div>
              <br>
              ==============================<wbr>==============================<br>
              FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<br>
              Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College<br>
              to unsubscribe <a href="http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://redfish.com/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/friam_redfish.com</a><br>
              FRIAM-COMIC <a href="http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://friam-comic.blogspot.<wbr>com/</a>
              by Dr. Strangelove<br>
              <br>
            </blockquote>
          </div>
          <br>
        </div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <fieldset class="m_-4600432815113237931m_-4851407796392153750mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
      <br>
      <pre>==============================<wbr>==============================
FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College
to unsubscribe <a class="m_-4600432815113237931m_-4851407796392153750moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://redfish.com/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/friam_redfish.com</a>
FRIAM-COMIC <a class="m_-4600432815113237931m_-4851407796392153750moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://friam-comic.blogspot.<wbr>com/</a> by Dr. Strangelove
</pre>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
  </div>

==============================<wbr>==============================<br>
FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<br>
Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College<br>
to unsubscribe <a href="http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://redfish.com/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/friam_redfish.com</a><br>
FRIAM-COMIC <a href="http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://friam-comic.blogspot.<wbr>com/</a> by Dr. Strangelove<br>
</blockquote></div>
</div>