<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Oh, forgot: one of the "surprises" had to do with email. Even tho I use gmail, which keeps all the email in the cloud, the mail *clients* (apps that interface with the email on the server) often store a huge amount of my email in a local "cache". We're talking 10s of GBs.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Try running one of these storage hierarchy apps and let us know what you find.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 10:19 AM Owen Densmore <<a href="mailto:owen@backspaces.net">owen@backspaces.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I'd recommend using a program that tells you where all the storage goes to.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">My OS has a simple facility that tells me I have 75GB left out of 250GB SSD drive on my laptop. That's OK but prompts me to run a finer grain program that tells me what my folder hierarchies contain. It good in that it tells me the total storage of each top-most folder, then dives into each of them, recursively telling how much each of the second, third, etc level folder contains.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Doing this is constantly surprising! For example, I found that my photos and music were well over 10GB. And that my programming libraries (./node-modules) were absolutely out of control. And many apps and system tools have huge "caches" of files.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">My solution is to use DropBox, a cloud storage and sync (sync == keep the files synchronized over my various computers, tablets and phone). Syncing can actually cause a huge *increase* in storage, but DB has a simple setting that tells it to just use the cloud version, thus turning into a fairly easily managed system.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">DB also lets me share files with others easily, so for example I can share a model/simulation I'm working on with others. Github also solves this sort of storage but I think isn't germane here. Google Docs might, however.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">So I developed a simple approach to DB: any keystroke I make ends up there: i.e. all docs I create is on DB. Photos, no .. I take the pictures but don't edit them .. i.e. add/subtract bits, thus they do not fall under the DB range, just backup.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">DB isn't cheap .. it starts out free for up to 6 GB but its first paid level is $100/year for 1TB. And it hasn't got all the features I need. But so far is the best for me.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I find that my cog load for my own docs is around 20GB so am happy with cloud storage for all the rest. And actually, a lot of my cloud storage is a form of backup.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Do you have a similar situation? I realize storage is "domain specific".</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"> -- Owen</div></div>
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