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<p>I don't know if this helps but these group-experiences seem to me
to have the feature of phase-lock, canalization, and entrainment.
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<p>I recently *re*watched a surreal dystopian scandinavian film "The
Bothersome Man" where the protaganist finds himself (after a
suicide/attempt) delivered to a city/job/context where everyone is
functioning in a *nearly* normal way, but in every case, it feels
as if they are following templates/scripts rather than exploring a
complex phase space with interesting attractors. <br>
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<p>Maybe you had to be there, but I feel like this movie exposed
precisely what we are talking about here through presenting it's
complement.</p>
<p>- Steve</p>
<p>Den brysomme mannen<span class="description">:</span></p>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0808185/">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0808185/</a></span></p>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://tubitv.com/movies/456289/the_bothersome_man">https://tubitv.com/movies/456289/the_bothersome_man</a><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/16/19 3:56 PM, uǝlƃ ☣ wrote:<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">That's fine. But it doesn't directly address the point. Is experience-being-with-other-people really an "attractor" in the sense we usually use that term? I don't think so. I think the normal (complexity fanboi) sense of "attractor" is at least somewhat reductionist/thin/flat and not commensurate with phrases like "experience being with other people".
If we simply decided these things are not attractors, then I think my problem dissolves.
On 1/16/19 2:45 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Some people participate in intramural sports or sing in a choir. Such participation isn't about being the best at the sport, or aspiring to be the most talented musician. As far as I can tell, they just like performing with other people. It is about experience and participation. It is an excuse to get together. It is about being around people they recognize as similar to them. (I feel like Commander Data observing the behavior of humans here..)
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