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p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div style="font-family:Arial;">Nick and Steve (and anyone else listening in),<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">The only difference between the Bose "hearing aid" and the "hear phone" is the FDA classification. The FDA examined the hear phone and gave Bose the approval to market it as a hearing aid. I suspect that there will be software differences, but minimal to no hardware changes when the hearing aid is released as an actual product. If there are software differences I would expect them to be available as upgrades - probably to the phone app that you can use to alter settings.<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">That said:<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">I can use the Hear Phones to listen to TV with the sound setting on the TV at '35' instead of at '100' that I have to use without them.<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">You can adjust the noise suppression feature to focus on a 'wedge' immediately in front of you, a semi circle in front of you, or a 360 field. The focus works great and most noise is filtered out. <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">Most of the time I am using them in the basement with, currently, concrete walls on all sides. This means that the pellet stove and its incessant droning motor sounds bounce across the entire room, including into the focus field, so it is never filtered out sufficiently. Constantly annoying. That does not happen in other settings.<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">In a FRIAM like setting, I would use the wedge-focus setting but would have to look at the person or persons I was talking to. If one person was to my left and the other to the right, I would have to turn my head for the focusing to work. This is kind of an obvious limitation.<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">A quirk, again because I am in a basement with no ceiling except insulation between joists, if sounds from upstairs are transmitted through the floor joists into the focus-wedge I hear them very well. This means I can 'evesdrop' on conversation upstairs if people are in a specific area of the house.<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">All in all, I would recommend them to others. Go to a Bose store and get the demo before deciding. <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">davew<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">On Thu, Mar 14, 2019, at 9:27 AM, Nick Thompson wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="fastmail-quoted"><div class="fastmail-quoted-WordSection1"><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size">Right, Dave,</span></span></span><br></p><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size"> </span></span></span><br></p><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size">I think this is a bit trimmed down, and gussied up from what you showed me. Did you look at the description? Let me know. </span></span></span><br></p><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size"> </span></span></span><br></p><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size">Mike keeps pointing out that the ear is not really doing Fourier transforms at all … it’s representing the geography of the cochlea from micro second to micro second. What I never can understand is what MORE information is in the signal than timexfrequencyxintensity to be extracted. Mike has explained it to me often but I have never quite been able to HEAR him.</span></span></span><br></p><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size"> </span></span></span><br></p><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size">[sigh]</span></span></span><br></p><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size"> </span></span></span><br></p><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size">Nick</span></span></span><br></p><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size"> </span></span></span><br></p><div><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size">Nicholas S. Thompson</span></span></span><br></p><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size">Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology</span></span></span><br></p><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size">Clark University</span></span></span><br></p><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size"><a href="http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/"><span style="color:rgb(5, 99, 193)" class="colour">http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/</span></a></span></span></span><br></p></div><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size"> </span></span></span><br></p><div><div style="border-right-color:currentcolor;border-right-style:none;border-right-width:medium;border-bottom-color:currentcolor;border-bottom-style:none;border-bottom-width:medium;border-left-color:currentcolor;border-left-style:none;border-left-width:medium;border-image-outset:0;border-image-repeat:stretch;border-image-slice:100%;border-image-source:none;border-image-width:1;border-top-color:rgb(225, 225, 225);border-top-style:solid;border-top-width:1pt;padding-top:3pt;padding-right:0in;padding-bottom:0in;padding-left:0in;"><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size">From:</span></span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size"> Friam [mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Prof David West<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 14, 2019 7:35 AM<br><b>To:</b> friam@redfish.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] A First Look at the Bose Hearing Aid - Self-Fitting Bose "Hearing Aid" Resembles Bose Hearphones</span></span></p></div></div><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal"> <br></p><div><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial", sans-serif" class="font">Nick,</span><br></p></div><div><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial", sans-serif" class="font"> </span><br></p></div><div><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial", sans-serif" class="font">The Bose Hearphone is the product I showed you at the coffee shop on a visit a few months ago. I have one and use it regularly with mixed results. If anyone is interested, I can provide details of my experience.</span><br></p></div><div><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial", sans-serif" class="font"> </span><br></p></div><div><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial", sans-serif" class="font">davew</span><br></p></div><div><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial", sans-serif" class="font"> </span><br></p></div><div><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial", sans-serif" class="font"> </span><br></p></div><div><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial", sans-serif" class="font">On Wed, Mar 13, 2019, at 10:32 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:</span><br></p></div><blockquote id="fastmail-quoted-fastmail-quoted" style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;"><div><p class="fastmail-quoted-fastmail-quoted-msoplaintext1">Dear Friammers,<br></p><p class="fastmail-quoted-fastmail-quoted-msoplaintext1"> <br></p><p class="fastmail-quoted-fastmail-quoted-msoplaintext1">One of the things we have talked about for years is the possibility of smartphone/hearing aid integration. This looks like a beginning.<br></p><p class="fastmail-quoted-fastmail-quoted-msoplaintext1"> <br></p><p class="fastmail-quoted-fastmail-quoted-msoplaintext1"><a href="https://www.hearingtracker.com/news/first-look-at-the-bose-hearing-aid?utm_source=Hearing+Tracker+Updates&utm_campaign=5ff252547f-cvsupdate_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_790a5b8263-5ff252547f-455404113"><span style="color:rgb(5, 99, 193)" class="colour">https://www.hearingtracker.com/news/first-look-at-the-bose-hearing-aid?utm_source=Hearing+Tracker+Updates&utm_campaign=5ff252547f-cvsupdate_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_790a5b8263-5ff252547f-455404113</span></a><br></p></div><div><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal">============================================================<br></p></div><div><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal">FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<br></p></div><div><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal">Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College<br></p></div><div><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal">to unsubscribe <a href="http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com">http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com</a><br></p></div><div><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal">archives back to 2003: <a href="http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/">http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/</a><br></p></div><div><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal">FRIAM-COMIC <a href="http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/">http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/</a> by Dr. Strangelove<br></p></div><div><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal"> <br></p></div></blockquote><div><p class="fastmail-quoted-MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial", sans-serif" class="font"> </span><br></p></div></div><div>============================================================<br></div><div>FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<br></div><div>Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College<br></div><div>to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com<br></div><div>archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/<br></div><div>FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove<br></div><div><br></div></blockquote><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div></body></html>