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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I will have to look at these. They can’t parse words on first hearing, can they? Mike knows a little about this area and he has told me some, but I need to know more. What I think he has told me is that a relatively primitive input with relatively few leads gives a tremendous benefit, much more than one would expect from the complexity of the cochlea itself. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Nicholas S. Thompson<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Clark University<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><a href="http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/"><span style='color:#0563C1'>http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Friam [mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Frank Wimberly<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 31, 2019 12:08 PM<br><b>To:</b> The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] 15555-10253-closing-a-gap-to-normal-hearing---white-paper.pdf<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Except for the young children. They some and laugh.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>-----------------------------------<br>Frank Wimberly<br><br>My memoir:<br><a href="https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly">https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly</a><br><br>My scientific publications:<br><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2">https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2</a><br><br>Phone (505) 670-9918<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 11:55 AM Frank Wimberly <<a href="mailto:wimberly3@gmail.com">wimberly3@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Nick,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Have you read about cochlear implant surgery? When I worked at Eye and Ear Hospital of Pittsburgh, the lab I worked in was doing early research in the area. These are pieces of hardware that transform sound into electrical signals meaningful to the brain.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Have you seen the videos of people who have been deaf since birth who get such a device. They inevitably sob when they hear sound for the first time.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Frank<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>-----------------------------------<br>Frank Wimberly<br><br>My memoir:<br><a href="https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly</a><br><br>My scientific publications:<br><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2" target="_blank">https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2</a><br><br>Phone (505) 670-9918<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 11:23 AM Nick Thompson <<a href="mailto:nickthompson@earthlink.net" target="_blank">nickthompson@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=m821467337188411905m-3165654170624905296msoplaintext>Hi, Everybody, <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m821467337188411905m-3165654170624905296msoplaintext> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m821467337188411905m-3165654170624905296msoplaintext>In the home congregation, we have had many interesting conversations about hearing in difficult environments, a conversation not only of intense interest to people interested in computer analysis and representation of sounds but also to a bunch of old guys shouting at each other in a crowded college dining area surrounded by hard surfaces. Recently, we have been trying to assemble our limited knowledge of the cochlea and to grasp the fact that it is not a bank of discrete resonators doing a Fourier Transform, but an innervated sliver of meat with liquid on both sides coiled up in a tiny snail shell. We are eager for any signs that a hearing aid company has started to reach beyond differential amplification by means of FFT to actually focusing on the cues that really matter for speech comprehension. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m821467337188411905m-3165654170624905296msoplaintext> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m821467337188411905m-3165654170624905296msoplaintext>Anyway, …. Anyway….. . I skimmed through the “white paper” below and thought that, even though it is “captive” research, it had some interesting features. Consequently, I thought I would pass it around to the list before I lost track of it. My friend Jon Zingale accuses me of crowd sourcing my reading and that is EXACTLY what I am doing. So, beware. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m821467337188411905m-3165654170624905296msoplaintext> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m821467337188411905m-3165654170624905296msoplaintext><a href="https://wdh.azureedge.net/-/media/oticon-us/main/download-center/white-papers/15555-10253-closing-a-gap-to-normal-hearing---white-paper.pdf?la=en&rev=0FC7&hash=B7D7D58F75093770CA7E148F72520C1D6BE28CB1" target="_blank">https://wdh.azureedge.net/-/media/oticon-us/main/download-center/white-papers/15555-10253-closing-a-gap-to-normal-hearing---white-paper.pdf?la=en&rev=0FC7&hash=B7D7D58F75093770CA7E148F72520C1D6BE28CB1</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=m821467337188411905m-3165654170624905296msoplaintext>If anybody on the list knows of somebody doing advanced research on how the cochlea passes sound on to the brain and how the brain analyses it, we would love to hear from that person. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m821467337188411905m-3165654170624905296msoplaintext> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m821467337188411905m-3165654170624905296msoplaintext>And has for you young folks who think this will never happen to you: have you noticed that your students and young associates and your daughter’s boyfriends MUMBLE. The moment you find yourself saying, “Curse these millennials, why don’t they speak up like normal people,” you should be taking an interest in hearing technology. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m821467337188411905m-3165654170624905296msoplaintext> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m821467337188411905m-3165654170624905296msoplaintext>Just sayin’<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m821467337188411905m-3165654170624905296msoplaintext> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m821467337188411905m-3165654170624905296msoplaintext>N <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>============================================================<br>FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<br>Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College<br>to unsubscribe <a href="http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com" target="_blank">http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com</a><br>archives back to 2003: <a href="http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/" target="_blank">http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/</a><br>FRIAM-COMIC <a href="http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/</a> by Dr. Strangelove<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>