<div dir="ltr"><div>I never got the bloatware grumble. Then my first android was a Samsung Galaxy. My issue(S) is that the when my phone is used any: battery life goes to crap, runs pretty hot, then slows down, then crashes.</div><div>It's also pretty weird it's vidgety to get working with Tmobiles voice system. Though that one is a Tmobile thing to some degree. Their voice mail service crap</div><div>GPS is hit and mis. Still has Dougs famous or even infamous wtf bugS of: Bluetooth will cause Google Maps to not work well. WiFi and bluetooth may or may not play well when on at the same time</div><div><br></div><div>Android 9 cut and or changed features to rely way to much on buttons being pushed just right. From what I've read need to swipe down (or up) just right to get to settings android 8 has right their.</div><div>And someone decided I don't need to see when updates and downloads are working (or not)<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 7:35 AM Roger Critchlow <<a href="mailto:rec@elf.org">rec@elf.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">My phone for the past few years has been the Moto X4, which is a good Android One phone that's nearing end of life. <div><br></div><div>My daughter complained at first about Motorola bloatware, but apparently that's cleared up. I never notiiced it.<br></div><div><br></div><div>It's listing for $149-199 this week according to google, works fine on Google Fi.</div><div><br></div><div>Google will be announcing a new pair of Pixel phones at I/O next month</div><div><br></div><div>-- rec --</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 4:10 PM Tom Johnson <<a href="mailto:tom@jtjohnson.com" target="_blank">tom@jtjohnson.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I'm pretty satisfied with my OnePlus T3, unlocked and with dual SIMs. Camera isn't so hot in this model, but T-mobile is now selling the OnePlus 6, which has a much better camera, for $550.<div>T<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-6695581042496229013gmail-m_7081417986889075196gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br>============================================<br>Tom Johnson - <a href="mailto:tom@jtjohnson.com" target="_blank">tom@jtjohnson.com</a><br>Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA<br>505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h)<br><a href="http://nmfog.org" target="_blank"><b><font color="#0b5394">NM Foundation for Open Government</font></b></a><br><b><font color="#0000ff">Check out <a href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/Its-The-Peoples-Data/1599854626919671" target="_blank">It's The People's Data</a></font></b> </div><div>============================================</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-6695581042496229013gmail-m_7081417986889075196DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br>
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