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<p>Frank -</p>
<p>I think the quantification of "generations" is at least a little
more useful than Astrology. I have a hard time believing that
the specific timing of the rising of constellations has that much
effect on individual constitution and personality (and fate?),
though the time of year one goes through various stages of
gestation (dead of winter, heat of summer) almost does.
Especially before the buffers of HVAC AWD Vehicles and
Supermarkets.<br>
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<p>Your identification as a "war baby" distinguishes you from the
"greatest generation" since you didn't come along until *after*
the great depression and wasn't "coming of age" or "a young adult"
during the war. I am technically a Boomer (1957) but feel a bit
too late, and your 1964 is even later... the defining qualities
of Boomers (for me) is having enjoyed the fruits of being raised
during the post-war "boom", and then being defined by the Hippy
moment and the Vietnam war. They cancelled draft registration
just months before my 18th birthday, so while I was acutely aware
of the *threat* of conscription/Vietnam and the aftermath
(returning vets), my elder-boomers had a significantly different
experience with all that. I was only 11 during the "Summer of
Love" I think? I don't know when "X" starts technically but my
own daughters (79, 80) feel like the forefront of "X". I believe
Marcus might be 10+ years older than them? Definitely post-Boom,
but early-early "X"? Glen also? Like "war baby" it seems like
early-early Xrs are also "war babies" (Vietnam, racial/gender
wars, Watergate, ???) being defined by things that were happening
while they might have been too young to participate?<br>
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<p>I guess I think in half-generations (by some measure) of roughly
10 year periods... where the older members of the "next older"
generation were probably more likely your parent's peers than
yours and the younger peers of your older siblings, but rarely of
you. The world events that shaped their childhoods, their teens,
or their young adult lives were different from yours. e.g.
Those who were already adults (my GenX daughters) for 9/11 had a
significantly different experience than those who were still
children, and very much those who were too young to remember. I
was in 2nd Grade when JFK was shot and really didn't appreciate
the implications of much at all except most of the adults I knew
were pretty whigged out for a while. I was a late teen when
Nixon came tumbling down. I helped vote Reagan in (and regretted
fairly quickly and am still rattled the way I hope a lot of
Trumpsters are now and decades from now), but most of the rest of
my adult life feels *much* more homogenous, even though a LOT of
significant events happened then also. <br>
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<p>I suppose my point is that the events of your formative years
seem to be what define us, along with the generational norms of
our parents (mine were older parents for their generation, so
their age-peers mostly had children 10 years older than me).<br>
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<p>Ramble...</p>
<p>- Steve<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/16/19 12:02 PM, Frank Wimberly
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<div dir="auto">I am a War Baby who is the father of a Baby Boomer
(1964) and a Gen Y (1991). The former serves Latin and the
latter serves beauty.
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 11:51 AM
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Gen Y
= millennials? </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In a gig economy, I don't see how
"serve" is very meaningful, never mind "worship".
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I think the Gen Y folks are right to be (supposedly)
selfish and indifferent to the needs of the
organization. No one else will look out for them in
the workforce.<br>
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On 4/16/19, 8:48 AM, "Friam on behalf of glen<span
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Well, there are at least 2 ways I disagree:<br>
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1) Any ecological individual serves multiple
bodies at once, and<br>
2) Any one can serve different bodies at
different moments.<br>
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That we serve multiples presents a difference in
degree so that there's a threshold for the number of
bodies one serves. Those that serve many many
purposes (religions, saints, jobs, whatever) may
*seem* as if they serve nobody. Similarly, those of
us who switch our affiliations on a minute-by-minute
basis, may *seem* not to serve any one body. So, if
your gist is that those who *seem* to not serve
somebody are really serving many bodies or rapidly
switching affiliations, then I agree. But if you
insist on an artificial unification, then I
disagree.<br>
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I worship Bob Dylan just about as much as I
worship Bob of the CotSG. I worship Eris just a tad
more, obviously. =><=<br>
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And the Cosmic Muffin seemed to be the same,
being a gay, Republican, Catholic, astrologer.<br>
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On 4/16/19 1:34 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote:<br>
> "You've got to serve somebody."<br>
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