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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>D<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I like this example! I might parse it differently. I might say, you were conscious of the fact of the polypectomy but not of the damage done to your colon in the process. I think of “pain” as a damage sensor. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>N<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>N<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Nicholas S. Thompson<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Clark University<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><a href="http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/"><span style='color:#0563C1'>http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Friam [mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Prof David West<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 28, 2019 2:51 PM<br><b>To:</b> friam@redfish.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Last colonoscopy I was thoroughly anesthetized but totally conscious. In recovery room, doctor explaining he had removed three minor polyps and I interrupted to say I thought I counted four. Shocked look on his part then told me the fourth was more like a skin tag. The anesthesia did prevent feeling, just not consciousness. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Dave west<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>On Sat, Apr 27, 2019, at 8:35 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' id=qt><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>No. But people who are under light anesthesia such as during a colonoscopy sometimes talk. I don't think they remember that.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>-----------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Frank Wimberly<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>My memoir:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><a href="https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly">https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>My scientific publications:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2">https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Phone (505) 670-9918<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Apr 27, 2019, 12:32 PM Nick Thompson <<a href="mailto:nickthompson@earthlink.net">nickthompson@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=size><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Oh, yes. We agree that I was unconscious. And if you had been there, you would have experienced my unconsciousness. But did I? I think a person who adopts your position has to say, “No.”</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=size><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=size><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Nicholas S. Thompson</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=size><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=size><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Clark University</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=size><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><a href="http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/"><span class=colour><span style='color:#0563C1'>http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/</span></span></a></span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=size><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=size><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b></span><span class=size><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Friam [mailto:<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Frank Wimberly</span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><br><span class=size><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 27, 2019 12:16 PM</span><br><span class=size><b>To:</b> The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com">friam@redfish.com</a>></span><br><span class=size><b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=qt-msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=qt-msonormal>Yes, you were unconscious. As you know, I had that experience a few days ago.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=qt-msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Frank<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>-----------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Frank Wimberly<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>My memoir:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><a href="https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly">https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>My scientific publications:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2">https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Phone (505) 670-9918<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=qt-msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=qt-msonormal>On Sat, Apr 27, 2019, 12:13 PM Nick Thompson <<a href="mailto:nickthompson@earthlink.net">nickthompson@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;border-top-width:initial;border-right-width:initial;border-bottom-width:initial;border-top-color:initial;border-right-color:initial;border-bottom-color:initial;border-image-source:initial;border-image-slice:initial;border-image-width:initial;border-image-outset:initial;border-image-repeat:initial'><div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=size><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Hi Frank, </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=size><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=size><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>The problem is that one has immediately to ask, what is the contrast class of experiencing consciousness? Experiencing non-consciousness? I think for your line of thinking, where consciousness is direct, that’s an oxymoron. For my line of thinking, when I woke up from my surgery and 24 hours had passed, I had a powerful experience of my non-consciousness. </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=size><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=size><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Nick </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=size><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=size><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Nicholas S. Thompson</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=size><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=size><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Clark University</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=size><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><a href="http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/"><span class=colour><span style='color:#0563C1'>http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/</span></span></a></span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=size><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=size><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b></span><span class=size><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Friam [mailto:<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Frank Wimberly</span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><br><span class=size><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 27, 2019 11:33 AM</span><br><span class=size><b>To:</b> The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com">friam@redfish.com</a>></span><br><span class=size><b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=qt-msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=qt-msonormal>Jon,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=qt-msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal>How about "experiences consciousness" in place of has consciousness.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal>Frsnk<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>-----------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Frank Wimberly<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>My memoir:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><a href="https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly">https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>My scientific publications:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2">https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Phone (505) 670-9918<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=qt-msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=qt-msonormal>On Sat, Apr 27, 2019, 11:03 AM Jon Zingale <<a href="mailto:jonzingale@gmail.com">jonzingale@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;border-top-width:initial;border-right-width:initial;border-bottom-width:initial;border-top-color:initial;border-right-color:initial;border-bottom-color:initial;border-image-source:initial;border-image-slice:initial;border-image-width:initial;border-image-outset:initial;border-image-repeat:initial'><div><div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>Nick,</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>I love that the title of this thread is 'A question for tomorrow'.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>My position continues to be that the label `conscious` is meaningful,</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>though along with you, I am not sure what language to use around it.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>For instance, can something <i>have</i> consciousness? That said, a</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>conservative scoping of the phenomena I would wish to describe</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>with <i>consciousness language</i> begins with granting consciousness</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>to more than 7 billion things on this planet alone. Presently, for those</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>that agree thus far, it appears that the only way to synthesize new things</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>with consciousness is to have sex (up to some crude equivalence).</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>This constraint seems an unreasonable limitation and so the problem</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>of synthesizing consciousness strikes me as reasonably near, ie.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'> `a question for tomorrow` and not some distant future.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>You begin by asking about the Turing machine, an abstraction which</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>summarizes what we can say about processing information. Here,</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>I am going to extend Lee's comment and ask that we consider</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>particular implementations or better particular embodiments.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>Hopefully said without too much hubris, given enough time and</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>memory, I can compute anything that a Turing machine can compute.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>The games `Magic the Gathering` and `Mine Craft` are Turing</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>complete. I would suspect that under some characterization, the</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>Mississippi river is Turing complete. It would be a real challenge</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>for me state what abstractions like `Mine Craft` experience, but</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>sometimes I can speak to my own experience. Oscar Hammerstein</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>mused about what Old Man River knows.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>Naively, it seems to me that some kind of information processing,</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>though not sufficient, is necessary for experience and for a foundations</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>for consciousness. Whether the information processor needs to be</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>Turing complete is not immediately obvious to me, perhaps a finite-</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>state machine will do. Still, I do not think that a complete description of</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>consciousness (or whatever it means to experience) can exist without</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>speaking to how it is that a thing comes to sense its world.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>For instance, in the heyday of analogue synthesizers, musicians</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>would slog these machines from city to city, altitude to altitude,</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>desert to rain-forested coast and these machines would notoriously</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>respond in kind. Their finicky capacitors would experience the</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>change and changes in micro-farads would ensue. What does an</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>analogue synthesizer know?</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>Cheers,</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'>Jonathan Zingale</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=qt-msonormal><span class=font><span style='font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#333333'> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>============================================================<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span 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