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<p>We love our "flocking" models but FRIAM is less of a
'birds-of-a-feather' group than something much harder to
similize. It feels to me that some of our conversations are a bit
flocky or schooly (rarely herdy) but others are more geophysical
like flares or eruptions... a good schoolyard "pileon"
occasionally happens as well... and then there are... as we are
now contemplating, the long dark-tea-times of our collective-soul.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/12/19 10:04 AM, Gary Schiltz
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">FRIAM is such a strange beast. At times full of
philosophical discourse that flies far above my head, other
times full of irreverent inanities that defy categorization, and
occasionally even with something to do with complexity. And then
the periodic deafening silence that makes me realize just how
much I would miss it if it were to go away. Long live FRIAM.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 10:45
AM Nick Thompson <<a
href="mailto:nickthompson@earthlink.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">nickthompson@earthlink.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Frank,
Dave, </span></p>
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style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Well
I AM tied up with relocation issues, so haven’t been
paying close attention, but …</span></p>
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style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I
just did a search in my inbox and there is nothing
from FRIAM from 24 August on. </span></p>
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style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I
have always understood that the Friam-Owner. is like
the wine pourer at a classical “symposium”, more or
less watering the wine to maintain the flow and
quality of the conversation. He won’t admit to it of
course, but every once in a while He “shuts me off”
from friam when He thinks I have become too …
agitated? I assume He is also gently modulating your
contributions in the same way, as a beneficent god
should. I don’t know how He gets the time to do it,
but nothing else could possibly explain the fact that
sometimes our emails just go missing for a while. So,
I didn’t get alarmed when I stopped receiving FRIAM
correspondence in late August. I just assumed that
the All Powerful Friam-Owner was giving me a rest. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Thank
you APF-O. We love you and worship you. </span></p>
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style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Nick
</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Ps.
Let me know if you don’t get this message. (};-\)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Nicholas
S. Thompson</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Emeritus
Professor of Psychology and Biology</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Clark
University</span></p>
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style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><a
href="http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/</span></a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
Friam [mailto:<a
href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Frank Wimberly<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 12, 2019 8:02 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> The Friday Morning Applied Complexity
Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">friam@redfish.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] query and observation</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dave,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The Friam list remains as you can
see but is sort of a trickle. I posted a couple of
items about the Cooper/Colbert interview and
something I can't remember but they weren't up to
the high intellectual standard which engages you,
Glen, Marcus, Nick, et al. Glen did comment
insightfully. Nick will be back in Santa Fe soon;
maybe the change in location will stimulate him.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">Frank</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-----------------------------------<br>
Frank Wimberly<br>
<br>
My memoir:<br>
<a
href="https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly</a><br>
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My scientific publications:<br>
<a
href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2</a><br>
<br>
Phone (505) 670-9918</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 12:42 AM
Prof David West <<a
href="mailto:profwest@fastmail.fm" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">profwest@fastmail.fm</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello All,<br>
<br>
Traffic on the FRIAM list seems to have ground to a
halt, from my reception point in Amsterdam - i.e. I
have seen nothing for some time. Not in spam filter,
so question is has the list trickled to a stop or
just not making it across the Atlantic.?<br>
<br>
Observation: an interesting coincidence arising from
reading a new book, The Case Against Reality, How
evolution hid the truth from our eyes, by Donald D.
Hoffman, professor of cognitive science at UC
Irvine. Main thesis is that what we perceive is but
a constructed, via evolution, "interface" and not a
veridical perception of "Reality." <br>
<br>
Not a new idea but the evolution / survival /
fittest being the ones that see the optimal
interface instead of what is behind the interface is
interesting.<br>
<br>
Coincidence comes from simultaneously rereading
Heidegger and Gadamer, and even some Peirce, and
seeing apparent parallels between "interface,:
"interpretation," and "experience." Feels like a
lot of Nick's Monism convictions might be
illuminated by looking at these works in
juxtaposition.<br>
<br>
dave west<br>
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