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<p>Jon -</p>
<p>Congratulations on your fresh parentage... the perfect (long)
moment to consider many issues around the meaning of life,
consciousness, etc. (as you are).</p>
<p>Of note it is interesting what you juxtapose: Playing D&D
with someone who you are also (out of band from the game)
discussing phenomenology and mind. I've never played D&D but
have a vague sense of the culture and experience and anecdotally
know it to be incredibly immersive for those who allow themselves
to trance into it as it were. <br>
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<p>Interesting also perhaps is the implication of that in the light
of the Hoffman/Veridical thread?</p>
<p>- Steve<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/12/19 11:33 AM, Jon Zingale wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">With
few apologize, I have not been contributing very much as of
late.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">The
last few months have offered new opportunities for work,
meditations</div>
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style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">on
new life, and a whole lot of commutative ring theory /
algebraic geometry.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">Sometime
soon, I hope to meet with my friend Ashley (an ex-Johnnie)</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">whom
it seems has thought quite a bit about consciousness and
embodiment.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">She
and I are in a D&D campaign together and we spend our
`smoke` break</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">talking
about phenomenology and mind. I would appreciate any `concise`</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">thoughts
that members of FRIAM have on the subject, as sometimes I see</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">it
as my job to pollinate my environment with the thoughtful
ideas of others.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:small;color:#333333"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">For
those that do not yet know, Sarah and I are going to have a
baby in</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">March.
This experience has me wondering about how it is that we `come</div>
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style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">online`.
This tiny organism begins as Sarah and slowly develops a heart</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">and
a nervous system. Is it an eventual critical mass of neurons
and the</div>
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that brings this thing (otherwise indistinguishable from an
organ)</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">across
the threshold and into a cognitive being? I muse that the
first</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">experiences
are proto-painful as I am not sure what a growing pain is</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">when
what is growing are the very first sensory organs the thing
has.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">What
is it to experience and then to become aware of experiencing?</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">Unfortunately,
I cannot remember.</div>
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