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p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div style="font-family:Arial;">Yes, Sheldrake,yearns for a kind of metaphysical reality and scientific validity that still eludes him. I think that have have reached, and are at risk of blending with, homeopathy and the like cure like, the dilution of "stuff" til there is no stuff left, but the "water has memory." <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">All based, of course on shared resonance.<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">Not sure about the data set. Most of it is from him or true believers and suffers from finding what you are looking for. But, because no one is really taking him seriously, no one is presenting data sets that might prove him wrong. Also, not a statistician so can't comment on methodology or significance.<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">Another of those connection things — a few years back, in a Quantum Consciousness type book, there was a discussion of resonance starting from the vibrating strings of physics fame to aggregates of strings creating blended vibrations to larger aggregates creating "harmonies" and feedback from "observers" blending everything — and when I was reading that it seemed to "resonate with Sheldrake." Being quite vague here, because the book is back home, but when I return I will pick it up and look at it again.<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">davew<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div>On Sun, Sep 15, 2019, at 11:56 PM, Steven A Smith wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt"><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><blockquote cite="mid:00d001d56c0f$0685d100$13917300$@earthlink.net" type="cite"><div class="qt-WordSection1"><p class="qt-MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(153, 51, 102)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size">Geez,
Steve,</span></span></span><br></p><p class="qt-MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(153, 51, 102)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size"> </span></span></span><br></p><p class="qt-MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(153, 51, 102)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size">I
didn’t know that morphs COULD resonate.</span></span></span><br></p><p class="qt-MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(153, 51, 102)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size"> </span></span></span><br></p><p class="qt-MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(153, 51, 102)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size">What
on earth are you talking about?</span></span></span><br></p></div></blockquote><p>What Dave just said in description of Sheldrake's theory of
"morphic resonance"... a resonant coupling amongst things which
have the same morphology (shape). In your case, you and Dave
apparently have similar "intellectual resonant chambers" which, in
this treatment "begin to resonate" as you spend enough time
"coupling" (in conversation). <br></p><p>Following the analogy (stronger/more-formal than a metaphor I
propose), when you "couple" with others who you end up disagreeing
with, I suspect it starts out a bit like a barbershop quartet...
one member hitting a tone and another following by hitting the
same tone, but as the progression gets more complex, the
*differences* in your tonality starts to expose itself as
dissonances. I credit you "harmonizing" with Dave in this (and
perhaps other) instance to Dave for *trying* to help you find the
same note (as I am here). <br></p><p>The Nick and Frank show (e.g. recent analogy to train conductors)
seems to be a deliberate study/applicatoin in dissonance... one of
you hits a note and the other intuitively (or with great
intellectual effort) factors the composing frequencies of that
note and responds with a new note that has *none* or *few* of the
same composing frequencies, generating a complex set of beat
frequencies anew. I don't know how much this type of deliberate
dissonance is used in echolocating creatures (bats, cetaceans,
???) but finding *dissonance* seems potentially *more useful* than
resonance in some cases?<br></p><p>- Steve<br></p><blockquote cite="mid:00d001d56c0f$0685d100$13917300$@earthlink.net" type="cite"><div class="qt-WordSection1"><p class="qt-MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(153, 51, 102)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size"></span></span></span><br></p><p class="qt-MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(153, 51, 102)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size"> </span></span></span><br></p><p class="qt-MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(153, 51, 102)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size">Nick</span></span></span><br></p><p class="qt-MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(153, 51, 102)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size"> </span></span></span><br></p><div><p class="qt-MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(153, 51, 102)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size">Nicholas
S. Thompson</span></span></span><br></p><p class="qt-MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(153, 51, 102)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size">Emeritus
Professor of Psychology and Biology</span></span></span><br></p><p class="qt-MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(153, 51, 102)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size">Clark
University</span></span></span><br></p><p class="qt-MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(153, 51, 102)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size"><a href="http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/"><span style="color:rgb(5, 99, 193)" class="colour">http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/</span></a></span></span></span><br></p></div><p class="qt-MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(153, 51, 102)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size"> </span></span></span><br></p><div><div style="border-right-color:currentcolor;border-right-style:none;border-right-width:medium;border-bottom-color:currentcolor;border-bottom-style:none;border-bottom-width:medium;border-left-color:currentcolor;border-left-style:none;border-left-width:medium;border-image-outset:0;border-image-repeat:stretch;border-image-slice:100%;border-image-source:none;border-image-width:1;border-top-color:rgb(225, 225, 225);border-top-style:solid;border-top-width:1pt;padding-top:3pt;padding-right:0in;padding-bottom:0in;padding-left:0in;"><p class="qt-MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size">From:</span></span></span></b><span style="color:windowtext" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size"> Friam [<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" class="qt-moz-txt-link-freetext">mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Steven A Smith<br> <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 15, 2019 5:32 PM<br> <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" class="qt-moz-txt-link-abbreviated">friam@redfish.com</a><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] Unmediated perception -
sheldrake</span></span></span></p></div></div><p class="qt-MsoNormal"> <br></p><p> <br></p><div><p class="qt-MsoNormal"> <br></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;"><p class="qt-MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size">Interesting,
David. With most people I find that if we talk long
enough, we disagree; with you it mostly works the other
way. Thank you.</span></span></span><br></p><p class="qt-MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size"> </span></span></span><br></p><p class="qt-MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size">Nick</span></span></span><br></p><p class="qt-MsoNormal"> <br></p></blockquote><p class="qt-MsoNormal">Looks like a case of morphic resonance to
me!<br></p></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><pre class="qt-moz-quote-pre" wrap="">============================================================
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