<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="auto">The turtle chapter 3 is rather weak. I like for example the beginning for chapter 5 where Steinbeck describes the land owners in Oklahoma:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">"Some of the owner men were kind because they hated what they had to do, and some of them were angry because they hated to be cruel, and some of them were cold because they had long ago found that one could not be an owner unless one were cold. And all of them were caught in something larger than themselves."</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Or a bit later where he describes the banks that many of the land owners work for:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">"The bank is something else than men. It happens that every man in a bank hates what the bank does, and yet the bank does it. The bank is something more than men, I tell you. It’s the monster. Men made it, but they can’t control it."</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">-J.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div id="composer_signature" dir="auto"><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757" dir="auto"><br></div></div><div><br></div><div style="font-size:100%;color:#000000" dir="auto"><!-- originalMessage --><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Nick Thompson <nickthompson@earthlink.net> </div><div>Date: 10/26/19 17:54 (GMT+01:00) </div><div>To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' <friam@redfish.com> </div><div>Subject: Re: [FRIAM] John Steinbeck in the 21st century </div><div><br></div></div><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Steinbeckers –<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Does anybody else remember that one-page chapter about the tortoise on 66 in Grapes of Wrath? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">It is such a metaphor for everything. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Nick <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Nicholas S. Thompson<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Clark University<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><a href="http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/"><span style="color:#0563C1">http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> Friam [mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Steven A Smith<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 25, 2019 7:00 PM<br><b>To:</b> friam@redfish.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] John Steinbeck in the 21st century<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On 10/25/19 1:21 PM, Jochen Fromm wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">I've read Cannery Row and liked it. I like the books from Steinbeck in general. What is the name of the biography from the Doc? "Beyond the Outer Shores" ? Is it recommendable? <o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><p>Very... <o:p></o:p></p><p> <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/401670.Beyond_the_Outer_Shores">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/401670.Beyond_the_Outer_Shores</a><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">-Jochen<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div id="composer_signature"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#575757">Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">-------- Original message --------<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">From: Steven A Smith <a href="mailto:sasmyth@swcp.com"><sasmyth@swcp.com></a> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Date: 10/25/19 16:53 (GMT+01:00) <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">To: <a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com">friam@redfish.com</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Subject: Re: [FRIAM] John Steinbeck in the 21st century <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">...On a recent pleasure/work trip I *re*visited Monterrey CA and Cannery Row which lead me to *re*read Steinbeck's Cannery Row which lead me to read something of a biography of the Doc character in his novel (and the movie) for whom the prototype was Ed Ricketts...<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p>Beyond the Outer Shores was written roughly 15 years ago, recounting Ricketts' life and career. I knew that Steinbeck was a good friend of Ricketts but I was not aware of how much work they did together, including a summer of kayaking in the Sea of Cortez which yielded the data for the book they co-authored by the name "Sea of Cortez". I was also unaware that Joseph Campbell spent his formative (adult) years in the company of both of these mens (and more to the point, Ricketts). The author of this biography credits Ricketts as being highly influential in the work of both Steinbeck (beyond Cannery Row) and Campbell, and credits him with leading the transition from traditional biology focused on taxonomic approaches to identification of collected specimens. Ricketts approached collecting and identifying (mostly marine) species as well as writing them up in his famous trilogy on the topic in the context of a newly emergent field of "ecology". He was simultaneously under-appreciated due to his lack of formal education, his lack of academic affiliation whilst also being a highly prolific commercial collector/supplier of specimens to the same community while identifying a huge number of new species (perhaps only recognizing the subtle differences based on habitat and foodweb relations) within his purview (the range of the Pacific coast along the North American coast from Bering Sea to Panama).<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On 10/23/19 3:39 PM, Jochen Fromm wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">I recently stumbled upon John Steinbeck's classic novel "The Grapes of Wrath" and wonder if it is similar to the situation today. You will all know it since it is often read in High Schools, right? (I had to read Goethe in School. And "Animal Farm" plus "To kill a Mocking Bird" in the English class).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">As you know Steinbeck describes how migrants from Oklahoma called Okies look for a better life in California. They travel along the Route 66, which Steinbeck helped to make popular, passed Albuquerque and Santa Fe, and drove to the West until they arrived in California where the locals disliked and rejected them.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.org/news/grapes-wrath">https://www.nationalgeographic.org/news/grapes-wrath</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Today we have migrants from Cuba and Mexico looking for a better life in the US and refugees from Syria and Afghanistan who cause a lot of trouble in the EU. Many of these refugees and migrants live in camps, just like the ones Steinbeck visited. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/books/2002/feb/02/johnsteinbeck.socialsciences">https://www.theguardian.com/books/2002/feb/02/johnsteinbeck.socialsciences</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Steinbeck's novel takes place during the "Dust Bowl". Today the dry regions in the South suffer from droughts and wild fires caused by Climate Change worldwide. Everything sounds similar, as if history is repeating itself. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.history.com/news/10-things-you-may-not-know-about-the-dust-bowl">https://www.history.com/news/10-things-you-may-not-know-about-the-dust-bowl</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">-J.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div id="composer_signature"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#575757"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>============================================================<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>to unsubscribe <a href="http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com">http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>archives back to 2003: <a href="http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/">http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>FRIAM-COMIC <a href="http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/">http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/</a> by Dr. Strangelove<o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>============================================================<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>to unsubscribe <a href="http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com">http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>archives back to 2003: <a href="http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/">http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>FRIAM-COMIC <a href="http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/">http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/</a> by Dr. Strangelove<o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote></div></body></html>