<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I don't trust any government, especially ours at the present moment, to have any moral compass.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 8:03 AM Frank Wimberly <<a href="mailto:wimberly3@gmail.com">wimberly3@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">North Korea, Pakistan, potentially Iran, Israel, Russia ... Do you trust them to be as moral as you are?<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I had a dream last night about being surrounded by Russians. When I awoke I learned that they were hacking into Burisma.<br><br><div dir="auto">-----------------------------------<br>Frank Wimberly<br><br>My memoir:<br><a href="https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly</a><br><br>My scientific publications:<br><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2" target="_blank">https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2</a><br><br>Phone (505) 670-9918</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 14, 2020, 7:43 AM Merle Lefkoff <<a href="mailto:merlelefkoff@gmail.com" target="_blank">merlelefkoff@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Sorry, George. There's a bigger picture here. I went to CNLS because I could work with complex systems scientists who were not doing weapons work, and I had access to post-docs from all over the world (not true any more). But Lanl is what it is, and it's stupidly but not unexpectedly, building parts for new nuclear weapons. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 11:01 PM George Duncan <<a href="mailto:gtduncan@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">gtduncan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="auto">Based on my experience at LANL, Marcus’s assessments are correct. Indeed much of LANL activity involves basic science that most of us would find quite laudable. And many in its technical staff are our neighbors. </div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 8:33 PM Marcus Daniels <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<span><span>I am confident the use of such a property would be for science, administration, and outreach & training functions, not secure national work. It would probably make a lot of LANL employees happy, as many of them live in Santa Fe. Anyway, get
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As we have explained in previous <a href="http://www.lasg.org/letters/letters.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">
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(NNSA) has applied for this role. NNSA and/or Los Alamos National Laboratory (LANL) are present in some (not all) other proposals, as tenant(s).
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<p>The situation is opaque, fluid, and developing. So far, Mayor Webber has disdainfully rebuffed our requests to meet or discuss the momentous social, cultural, and economic development impacts of placing a nuclear weapons campus in Santa Fe. (Don't be deceived
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<p>People power may be the only force stronger than LANL's money and corruption. We really need you to help us expand our numbers.
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<p>I<span><span>f you live <i>anywhere</i> nearby please come to this joint press conference, and please ask as many friends to come</span></span><span><span><span><span> as possible</span></span>. Sheer attendance matters. A strong showing Wednesday will save
countless hours of work later, and will give wings to efforts to push back on LANL's entirely unjustified expansion. There are many powerful people in Washington who know LANL specializes in taxpayer ripoffs. Some of them need to see some spine from us out
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<p><span><span>New Mexico is being selected to be a nuclear weapons support and sacrifice area. That now includes the Santa Fe metro area.
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<p><span><span>We may not know know the outcome of this first Midtown Campus decision by noon Wednesday but regardless of that we must seize the day.
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<p><span><span>While it seems absurd that NNSA could be a possible "master developer," we can't be sure that Mayor Webber and the people around him wouldn't want that -- or want, say, a training facility for plutonium workers. We just don't know.
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