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earth is warming much slower than what the models predicted.
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<p>Pieter -</p>
<p>Thanks for offering up the positive element of hope in this
context. It is easy to project our "worst fears" and "greatest
hopes" onto the natural uncertainty that comes with formal and
informal prognostication. <br>
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<p>When the "stakes" are as high as "inhabitability of the planet"
in our children/grandchildren's lifetime, it is easy to convolve
those stakes with even the lowest likelihoods of a given outcome.</p>
<p>Conversely, when the "stakes" involve the likely end of a
lucrative crap-shoot, those with the highest investment in the
game are going to want to downplay the likelihoods and even risks
as much as possible while they "sneak out of the game" and try to
"game the next system" or even "create the next game".</p>
<p>There is a LOT more afoot with our extreme industrial
"competence" or "efficacy" than mere "atmospheric surface
temperature"... dissolved CO2 in the oceans, the attendant
acidification, and the impact on the entire marine ecosystem of
which biogenic calcification is a critical element. <br>
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<p>The biosphere is a *complex system* which has both
self-regulating mechanisms *and* potential bifurcation points...
while we have (and continue to see) some of the feedback loops
working (more CO2 supports more vigorous plant
growth/photosynthesis) in favor of limiting atmospheric greenhouse
gasses, there are coupled feedback loops (like rapid plant growth
creating *local* O2 enrichment, leading to harsher wildfires based
on post-growing season concentrations of dry biomass and enhanced
O2)... <br>
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<p>My favorite definition of "hope" is "doing the right thing, no
matter how you think that is going to turn out". <br>
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<p>Of course, those who we label "climate deniers" are *hoping*...
some hoping that there IS no anthropogenic climate change, others
hoping that they can amass enough wealth/power to avoid the
consequences to themselves and their filial interests.</p>
<p>And of course, the rest of us *hoping* that if we just act
quickly and significantly enough, that the worst of the effects
can be avoided and the worst effects can be ameliorated.</p>
<p>One distinction between the "left" and the "right" seems to
involve how worried we might be about the consequences to those
who are not significantly implicated in "the problem" and are
likely least able to endure them. Maybe the likes of Trump and
Murdoch really are concerned about "the little people", but I see
very little overt evidence of that.</p>
<p>- Steve<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 at 22:36,
Jochen Fromm <<a href="mailto:jofr@cas-group.net"
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<div dir="auto">Trump's channel Fox News is owned by the
Australian Murdoch family. Can two families ruin the
entire planet? Trump in America and Murdoch in Australia
are creating tremendous damage. If Climate Change leads to
an uninhabitable world, as David Wallace-Wells describes
in his book, these two families certainly contributed to
it</div>
<a
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GVPFH5V/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1</a>
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<div dir="auto">The Washington Post writes:</div>
<div dir="auto">"When we think of industries that must
change to prevent further global warming, we tend to
imagine carbon-intensive concerns such as mining, aviation
and energy production. But the Murdoch media and the rest
of the climate denialist industry will also need a
transition plan. They do not have long to implement it."</div>
<div dir="auto"><a
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/01/16/australias-catastrophic-fires-are-moment-reckoning-murdochs-media-empire/</a></div>
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