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An organization like SFI that depends on rich donors needs to be careful about giving money back when a rich donor proves to have done something sleazy. They could be giving a lot of money back, and most of which they've already spent! Or it could even be
more absurd: Appealing to one new donor having dark entanglements to pay for the sins of another past donor having dark entanglements. What fun!<br>
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<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">You realize I could go to jail for this. Be a good citizen, a supportive member of the community and buy the LOCAL newspapers. </p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">-sss#ssssssssdsdddd</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">An external professor and member of the science board at Santa Fe Institute has been placed on paid leave by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, after a new report shed new light on the MIT faculty member’s relationship
with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">Seth Lloyd, a tenured professor of mechanical engineering who has ties with the</p>
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<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">Santa Fe Institute dating back to 1988, had received $225,000 of the $850,000 that Epstein foundations had donated to MIT, with all but $100,000 of the total received by the prestigious Cambridge school after Epstein’s 2008 conviction
for solicitation of prostitution in Florida.</p>
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<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">Epstein, a billionaire financier who had a fascination for abstract concepts and young women and girls, had over the years also given $275,000 to SFI, a renowned complexity science research and education center located on Hyde
Park Road. But only $25,000 was donated to SFI after Epstein pleaded guilty to the Florida charges.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">Last month, SFI donated $25,000 to Solace Crisis Treatment Center, a Santa Fe-based non-profit that works to empower victims of sexual violence and other trauma.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">While MIT has said it would contribute an amount equivalent to the all of the contributions it received from Epstein to his victims or organizations that work on behalf of victims of sexual violence, SFI told the Journal late last
year that it</p>
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MIT students have staged protests calling for Professor Seth Lloyd and President Rafael Reif to resign (Courtesy photo)</p>
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<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">doesn’t plan to give away any more than the $25,000 it received from Epstein after his conviction.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">Nor does it appear that SFI is taking any action regarding Lloyd, as MIT did.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">“As far as I know, SFI does not have plans to follow suit, though it’s worth noting that as an external professor, Seth is not actually on our payroll,” SFI spokeswoman Jenna Marshall wrote in an email to the Journal.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">She did not respond to follow up questions she invited the Journal to submit.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">Besides making contributions to SFI, Epstein, who investigators determined died by suicide in a New York jail in August while awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges involving dozens of girls, had at least one other tie to New
Mexico. He owned a ranch in southern Santa Fe County that according to New York Times reporting last year he planned to use as a base to impregnate women in order to “seed” the human race with his DNA.</p>
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<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em"><b>Student pressure</b></p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">MIT has been under pressure from some students and alumni to sever its ties with Lloyd.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">Joi Ito, director of MIT’s Media Lab, the institute’s research laboratory that was the beneficiary of most of the contributions Epstein made to the Cambridge university, was forced to resign in September.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">The new MIT report released Jan. 10, conducted by the Goodwin Proctor LLC and commissioned by the university “to better understand” the extent of Epstein’s interactions with the school, states that both Ito and Lloyd deliberately
concealed donations from Epstein, something Lloyd denies. He was placed on leave that same day.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">In October, Eleanor Graham, a student in one of Lloyd’s classes, set off a string of guest columns slanted against Lloyd that appeared in The Tech, a weekly student newspaper. In it, she wrote that allowing Lloyd to continue to
teach at MIT puts the next generation of scientists in a difficult position.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">“The opportunity to study quantum computation should not be restricted by how easily you can put aside your moral discomfort regarding a man who takes money from pedophiles as a supposed act of charity,” wrote Graham, who ended
up dropping the class. “By continuing to teach, by continuing to be a part of the scientific community, Seth Lloyd is continuing to do harm.”</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">Later that month, MIT Students Against War staged a silent protest outside of Lloyd’s classroom, prompting Lloyd to conduct his lecture over a video link with police officers guarding both the classroom where the students were
and the one in which Lloyd gave his talk.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">During Parent’s Weekend last fall, the group printed hundreds of posters with messages like “Seth Lloyd Must Go” and posted them around campus.</p>
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<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">The group demanded Lloyd’s resignation and pressured MIT President Rafael Reif to get rid of him. When he at first didn’t take action with Lloyd, they called for Reif’s resignation and staged protests that were anything but silent.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">Alonso Espinosa-Domínguez, an MIT senior majoring in mathematics, said in an email to the Journal that Reif told them that all he could do was ask the provost and Lloyd’s department head to look into options. But it was Rief who
eventually placed Lloyd on leave.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">“Which means Reif had more authority than he let on initially,” said Espinosa-Domínguez, who is also one of the co-founders of MIT Students Against War.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">He says that Reif placed Lloyd on leave pending the department head’s determination of appropriate action.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">“But we do not trust that MIT will not simply decide that the ‘appropriate action’ is to reinstate him once the media attention dies down, and so we intend to continue applying pressure,” he said.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">Espinosa-Domínguez said that keeping Lloyd on staff at MIT sends the wrong message.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">“People like Seth Lloyd, Joi Ito, and all the other high-profile scientists, business people, publicists, etc., who over the years continued to vouch for Epstein, despite all the obvious evidence available of his multiple sex crimes
against women and underage girls and his overall patriarchal attitude toward women, directly enabled him,” he wrote. “This is reflective of a broader issue in our society wherein, especially in elite, male circles, sexual predators and the commodification
of women are widely tolerated and enabled. If MIT were serious about combatting this grave issue which plagues it, science, and society overall, they would take the basic step of parting ways with Lloyd.”</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em"><b>Lloyd’s SFI associations</b></p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">Lloyd’s association with SFI started four years after its founding in 1984.</p>
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<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">One of the founders was Murray Gell-Mann, under whom Lloyd studied applications of information to quantum-mechanical systems while a postdoctoral fellow at the California Institute of Technology.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">Gell-Mann, a professor at the University of New Mexico in the 1990s and early 2000s who died in Santa Fe last year, was friendly with Epstein and acknowledged Epstein’s financial contributions to SFI in his 1994 book “The Quark
and the Jaguar, Adventures in the Simple and the Complex.” The New Times reported he was also a guest of Epstein at dinners and scientific conferences.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">According to the MIT report, Lloyd was introduced to Epstein by his book agent at a dinner in 2004. Lloyd told investigators that he received his first contribution from Epstein in 2005 or 2006.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">Epstein was first investigated for committing sex crimes with children in 2005 after a parent of a 14-year-old girl contacted police in Palm Beach, Florida. A probable cause affidavit was filed by police in 2006.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">But there was something unusual about that first donation of $60,000.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">“In a possible violation of MIT policies and certainly in violation of MIT norms, Professor Lloyd deposited the gift into a personal bank account and did not report it to MIT,” the report states.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">In a statement Lloyd posted last week on the online publishing platform
<a href="http://medium.com">medium.com</a> – the same website Lloyd published an apology to Epstein’s victims in August – Lloyd explained that Epstein offered him a “personal grant” for his research and told him to set up a nonprofit as a vehicle to accept
the grant. That took a long time, he said, and Epstein ended up giving him the money as a gift, on which he paid a gift tax. The money was used to support his scientific research, he said.</p>
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<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">He also said that he wasn’t then aware of any accusations of sexual misconduct against Epstein.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">“At the time that I accepted the 2006 grant (years before his 2008 conviction), my knowledge was that Epstein was a wealthy individual who liked to support science, and so accepting an unrestricted personal grant from him for performing
scientific research was unproblematic,” he said.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">Later, Lloyd visited Epstein’s private island near St. Thomas, where it is now alleged that Epstein committed many of his sex crimes. A lawsuit against Epstein’s estate filed last week by the government of the U.S. Virgin Islands
alleges Epstein raped and otherwise sexually abused girls, some as young as 12 and as recently as 2018, after he lured them to the island of Little St. James.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">The MIT report says Lloyd attended a lunch there with other scientists and was only there for “a few hours.”</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em"><b>Visit to Epstein</b></p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">Even after Epstein’s conviction, Lloyd continued to carry on a relationship with Epstein and accept money from him. The Goodwin Proctor report for MIT says Lloyd made efforts to hide the source of two $50,000 donations in 2012,
which were unsolicited, and a $125,000 contribution in 2017.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">Those donations came after Lloyd visited Epstein while he was serving his 18-month sentence on the 2008 conviction. This was no jailhouse meeting, however. It occurred in an office Epstein used while on “work release” during what
has been criticized as an exceptionally light sentence.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">Lloyd later explained that in continuing his relationship with Epstein he felt he could help with his “rehabilitation.”</p>
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<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">The report indicates that Lloyd and Ito fostered a relationship with Epstein in an effort to obtain funding for their research but they didn’t want others to know the money was coming from Epstein.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">“The fact-finding revealed that, despite Epstein’s criminal record, and his registration as a sex offender, Professor Lloyd and former Media Lab Director Ito attempted to cultivate Epstein as a potential source of research and
program funding and drove the efforts to obtain donations from and through him,” the report states.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">This took place while MIT was working “to limit Epstein’s donations, and affiliation with, MIT.”</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">“In summary, Professor Lloyd knew that donations from Epstein would be controversial and that MIT might reject them,” the report states. “We conclude that, in concert with Epstein, he purposefully decided not to alert the Institute
to Epstein’s criminal record, choosing instead to allow mid-level administrators to process the donations without any formal discussion or diligence concerning Epstein. In his interview, Professor Lloyd acknowledged that he had been ‘professionally remiss’
in not alerting MIT to Epstein’s criminal record.”</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">Lloyd’s statement last week characterizes things differently.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">“I didn’t hide the fact that Epstein was donating money to MIT. Nor did I conspire with Epstein to avoid any vetting process,” he wrote. “I actively inquired about MIT’s proper procedures for accepting donations, and I followed
them to the letter.”</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">But the Goodwin Proctor report found that one of the 2012 donations listed Lesley Groff, an assistant to Epstein and now a defendant and co-conspirator in civil cases against Epstein, was handling the contribution on the donor’s
end.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">“The only reasonable inference is that Professor Lloyd did this to obscure the fact that Epstein was the donor and to hinder any possible due diligence or vetting by MIT,” the report says.</p>
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<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">This, too, Lloyd denies.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">“The accusation that I hid Epstein’s identity from MIT, which is leveled in the recently released Goodwin Proctor report, is completely false,” he wrote. “I never hid the identity of Epstein as the donor prior to the donation being
accepted. I facilitated the submission of the donation approval request to the MIT officers exactly so they could vet it. MIT knew that the donor was Epstein and fully approved the donation with this knowledge.”</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">Lloyd said he wasn’t trying to diminish his mistakes or make excuses for his lapse of judgment, “which will continue to weigh on my conscience for the rest of my life.”</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">Lloyd declined to be interviewed by the Journal. He did alert the Journal to the statement he posted last week.</p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em">“I will not be commenting further at the moment,” he added.</p>
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<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em"><em>(Editor’s Note: MIT President Rafael Reif’s name was misspelled in the original version of this story)</em></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Johnson<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [FRIAM] MIT students protest prof with SFI ties » Albuquerque Journal<u></u><u></u></p>
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