<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I don’t think finding a language to talk will come from being co-opted in a bad-faith narrative where up is down and black is white, just because some people are angry and have been led to believe they want to tear truth up to revert to a game in which it is only who has power — wrongly believing it is them.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">One brings character back into a community by first having character, and being willing to hang onto it. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The common language will have to come from having a material commitment to other people’s wellbeing, with enough understanding of their circumstances to address the complexity of those circumstances substantively. I think some of that will be barn-building without talking, and the building may need to go on for a while before there is a shared base of activity to talk about. Those who want to solve problems will need to accept that as the responsibility for the end they want, and do whatever they can think of to get to the goal, rather than being distracted by showing that they were “right" in some dispute. Shed the vanity; keep an eye on what matters. If there are others who just want to throw bombs and don’t want to contribute to understanding or helping anything, then that is part of the situation we have to deal with. Good-faith people from any starting point are welcomed. The nature of the problems will sort out who is contributing to solving something.<br class=""><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 31, 2020, at 8:35 AM, <<a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com" class="">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a>> <<a href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com" class="">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)" class=""><style class=""><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" class=""><div class="WordSection1"><div class="MsoNormal">Or screw your country after drifting into dementia.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">But … I have to keep remembering … there are many people in my life whom I respect and who are trumpy. <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">Some how we have to find the occasion and the language to talk. <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">Nick <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">Nicholas Thompson<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">Clark University<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:ThompNickSon2@gmail.com" class=""><span style="color:#0563C1" class="">ThompNickSon2@gmail.com</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/" class=""><span style="color:#0563C1" class="">https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in" class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><b class="">From:</b> Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" class="">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> <b class="">On Behalf Of </b>Marcus Daniels<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b> Thursday, January 30, 2020 3:36 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b> The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" class="">friam@redfish.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] Trumps motives not judiciable because they are "in his head"<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">Eric writes:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">“That is why he takes case after case that have no legal merits, to preen by showing that it is the singer — particularly the singer Dershowitz — entirely, and not at al the song.”<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">One would think that after a long career at an elite U.S. university, one might look back on their career with a sense of calm and satisfaction.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">Or maybe if one was mayor of a great U.S. city during a dark period, that would provide a sufficient pool of self-esteem? People come to be happier as they age, and accept their limitations and the journey of their life… Nah! Why not really screw the country before drifting into dementia?<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal">Marcus<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal"><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div></div></div>============================================================<br class="">FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<br class="">Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College<br class="">to unsubscribe <a href="http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com" class="">http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com</a><br class="">archives back to 2003: <a href="http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/" class="">http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/</a><br class="">FRIAM-COMIC <a href="http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/" class="">http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/</a> by Dr. Strangelove<br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>