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<p>Stephen -</p>
<p>Thanks for turning me onto Rutt's show a while back... I've been
working my way into some of the meat there. I've met Jim before
but this really exposes his style and personality while pulling
some amazing things out of his interviewees. Cory Doctorow and
Lee Smolin come most recently...<br>
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<p>I'm now really enjoying this interview with Eric... they cover
so much territory! <br>
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<p>I'd be curious about your own perspective on China, having "come
of age" there and still having connections and interests of
significance. I really liked Eric's points about the fundamental
differences in "political stance" which goes so much deeper.
I've been exposed to quite a range of opinions and ideas about
China in my life, including working for years with three different
grad students and what I've learned through your own experience
and here, Eric's observations add to the grand mystery and
possibilities implied in competing/complementary social models.</p>
<p>The rest of the interview is equally fascinating... rich in
perspective and ideas.</p>
<p>- Steve<br>
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great to get your perspective, Eric!
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18px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px">Multidimensional
thinker Eric Smith has a wide-ranging talk with Jim about
the origins of life, monetary systems, language &
sustainability. Eric starts by sharing how geochemistry
informs the origin of life topic, the dynamics of
autocatalytic processes, how little we know about
biological systems & what this might tell us about
the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox"
target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"
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moz-do-not-send="true">Fermi paradox</a>. The
conversation then goes into the importance of institutions
& a dynamic perspective on monetary systems, the
subprime mortgage crisis, money substitutes & crypto.
They then finish this chat by talking about Eric’s
interest in linguistics & what it can learn from
modern probability, key areas of focus for ecosystem
sustainability, the challenge of reconciling ‘small local’
& ‘global policy’ approaches to sustainability, the
role of civil society, and much more.</p>
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18px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><a
href="https://jimruttshow.blubrry.net/the-jim-rutt-show-transcripts/transcript-of-episode-40-eric-smith-on-the-physics-of-living-systems/"
target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"
style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(170,0,0);text-decoration-line:none"
moz-do-not-send="true">Episode Transcript</a></p>
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18px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><strong
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Recommendations</strong></p>
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<li style="box-sizing:border-box"><a
href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26598904-the-origin-and-nature-of-life-on-earth"
target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"
style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(170,0,0);text-decoration-line:none"
moz-do-not-send="true">Eric’s book, <em
style="box-sizing:border-box">The Origin and Nature
of Life on Earth</em></a></li>
<li style="box-sizing:border-box"><a
href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2708135-the-theory-of-money-and-financial-institutions"
target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"
style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(170,0,0);text-decoration-line:none"
moz-do-not-send="true"><em
style="box-sizing:border-box">The Theory of Money
and Financial Institutions</em> by Martin Shubik</a></li>
<li style="box-sizing:border-box"><a
href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7478879-slapped-by-the-invisible-hand"
target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"
style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(170,0,0);text-decoration-line:none"
moz-do-not-send="true"><em
style="box-sizing:border-box">Slapped by the
Invisible Hand: The Panic of 2007</em> by Gary
Gorton</a></li>
<li style="box-sizing:border-box"><a
href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/5140563-stabilizing-an-unstable-economy"
target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"
style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(170,0,0);text-decoration-line:none"
moz-do-not-send="true"><em
style="box-sizing:border-box">Stabilizing an
Unstable Economy</em> by Hyman Minsky</a></li>
<li style="box-sizing:border-box"><a
href="https://youtu.be/Qyy3glEu8X0" target="_blank"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(170,0,0);text-decoration-line:none"
moz-do-not-send="true">Jim’s talk on Dividend Money</a></li>
<li style="box-sizing:border-box"><a
href="https://arxiv.org/abs/1401.3372" target="_blank"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(170,0,0);text-decoration-line:none"
moz-do-not-send="true">Linas Vepstas on Learning
Language…</a></li>
<li style="box-sizing:border-box"><a
href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/89998.Blessed_Unrest"
target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"
style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(170,0,0);text-decoration-line:none"
moz-do-not-send="true"><em
style="box-sizing:border-box">Blessed Unrest</em> by
Paul Hawken</a></li>
<li style="box-sizing:border-box"><a
href="https://youtu.be/5dZ_lvDgevk" target="_blank"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
style="box-sizing:border-box;background-color:transparent;color:rgb(170,0,0);text-decoration-line:none"
moz-do-not-send="true">FRONTLINE Doc, In the Age of AI</a></li>
</ul>
<p style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0px 0px
18px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span
style="box-sizing:border-box">D. Eric Smith received the
Bachelor of Science in Physics and Mathematics from the
California Institute of Technology in 1987, and a Ph.D.
in Physics from The University of Texas at Austin in
1993, with a dissertation on problems in string theory
and high-temperature superconductivity. From 1993 to
2000 he worked in physical, nonlinear, and statistical
acoustics at the Applied Research Labs: U. T. Austin,
and at the Los Alamos National Laboratory. From 2000 he
has worked at the Santa Fe Institute on problems of
self-organization in thermal, chemical, and biological
systems. A focus of his current work is the statistical
mechanics of the transition from the geochemistry of the
early earth to the first levels of biological
organization, with some emphasis on the emergence of the
metabolic network.</span></p>
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