<div dir="ltr">Two tests implies there are any tests, free and some number of people have them though.  Hasn't anyone watched B Zombie flicks or silly ones like attack of the tomaters? Have to have that stuff their to use, or (as is the case now): omg omgomgomgomgomgomgogmogmog some coughed ruuuuun they have...oh just a regular caugh.<div>It'd seem like without IMEI info being sent out into the wild it'd be hardER to misuse phone location info for nefarius dude uses.  Is there a reason for  needing two tests? I gather you can't (somewhat) indirectly double check someone (or something ) moved  asking for a new random location of that same ip or gps info?</div><div>Just curious.</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 11:32 AM cody dooderson <<a href="mailto:d00d3rs0n@gmail.com">d00d3rs0n@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">There is part of me that really sees the potential for misuse of power. At Simtable we are working towards a spread model that involves tracking peoples locations using their phones. Which would be bootstrapped by getting location history from sources like Google, Facebook, Pokemon-go, etc...  The US and Israeli governments have already verified that they gather accurate phone location histories.  I would really hate for the GOP or even the DNC to get that data 'though. What I am trying to say is that we are on a slippery slope, where tracking everyones location is common. <div>There also seems to be doubt about how well this location data will work for fighting the covid-19 virus given the number of asymptomatic carriers. So far the best solution seems to be to test everyone, and then test them again. </div><div><br></div><div>References:</div><div>* <a href="https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/governments-havent-shown-location-surveillance-would-help-contain-covid-19" target="_blank">https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/governments-havent-shown-location-surveillance-would-help-contain-covid-19</a></div><div>* <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/18/scientists-say-mass-tests-in-italian-town-have-halted-covid-19" target="_blank">https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/18/scientists-say-mass-tests-in-italian-town-have-halted-covid-19</a></div><div><br><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Cody Smith</div></div></div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 8:06 AM Frank Wimberly <<a href="mailto:wimberly3@gmail.com" target="_blank">wimberly3@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Congress is smarter than that, even with it's Trumpian sycophants.  <br><br><div>---<br>Frank C. Wimberly<br>505 670-9918<br>Santa Fe, NM</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 22, 2020, 5:26 AM Jochen Fromm <<a href="mailto:jofr@cas-group.net" target="_blank">jofr@cas-group.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Hungary's authoritarian leader Orban wants to get indefinite emergency powers to fight the Virus.</div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-21/hungary-s-orban-seeks-indefinite-emergency-powers-in-virus-bill" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-21/hungary-s-orban-seeks-indefinite-emergency-powers-in-virus-bill</a><div dir="auto"></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It reminds Germans of the "enabling act" 1933 which Hitler used to grab power. This law granted the leader <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Lato,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">the power to enact laws without the involvement of the </span><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_(Weimar_Republic)" title="Reichstag (Weimar Republic)" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-variant-numeric:inherit;font-variant-east-asian:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI",Roboto,Lato,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;vertical-align:baseline;background:none rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(107,75,161)" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">p</a>arliament<font color="#222222" face="-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Segoe UI, Roboto, Lato, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">, and made him a dictator. </span></font></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act_of_1933" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act_of_1933</a></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Trump will try something similar - a bill or amendment to the constitution that grants him indefinite and unlimited powers. Officially to fight the disease and to protect Americans. In reality to protect himself. Once he has this emergency powers, he will never give them back.</div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/21/doj-coronavirus-emergency-powers-140023" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/21/doj-coronavirus-emergency-powers-140023</a></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">-J.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div>============================================================<br>
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