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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=FR link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I don’t if Professor Raoult is right or not, but, for him, the word « idiot » is inappropriate, you might use “character » or “unusual” or “bizarre”:</span><span lang=EN-US> </span><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Didier_Raoult#Citations">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Didier_Raoult#Citations</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Amicalement<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Michel Bloch<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><a href="http://mountvernon.fr/"><span style='color:#0563C1'>http://mountvernon.fr/</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>06 80 57 3398</span></i><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b>De :</b> Friam <friam-bounces@redfish.com> <b>De la part de</b> Steven A Smith<br><b>Envoyé :</b> mardi 24 mars 2020 16:27<br><b>À :</b> friam@redfish.com<br><b>Objet :</b> Re: [FRIAM] Choroquine-phosphate Death<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 3/24/20 8:56 AM, Prof David West wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>France is pushing chloroquine hard. A FriAMer has relatives there.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Just because the first person that told people about this was an idiot does not make the information wrong.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></blockquote><p>He was far from the first, just the loudest/brashest. He *would* have us believe that he personally *discovered* this off-label use... but that IS how he rolls.. no surprises.<o:p></o:p></p><p>There is a presumed responsibility when you have a megaphone. But that is one of the broken norms for worse (and better). <o:p></o:p></p><p>The unintended consequences of his mass-tweet/news-conference/rally announcements are sweeping. I do not believe he *intended* to cause a slam on the chloroquine supply chain, nor for self-described self-reliant folks like the AZ couple to run out and make a small/obvious but terminal mistake.<o:p></o:p></p><p><o:p> </o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>davew<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, at 2:53 PM, Barry MacKichan wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' id=qt><div><div><p><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Elon Musk had a serious brush with malaria about 20 years ago, and is evidently one of the insistent sources pushing for chloroquine. Sorry, I don’t have references.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>—Barry<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>On 24 Mar 2020, at 0:42, Steven A Smith wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:3.75pt;border-left-color:rgb(119, 119,
119);color:rgb(119,
119,
119)'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>My first reaction to this was: THANK YOU DEAR LEADER!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><a href="https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/briannasacks/man-died-chloroquine-phosphate-coronavirus"><span style='color:#777777'>https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/briannasacks/man-died-chloroquine-phosphate-coronavirus</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>But, I don't know if we can attribute this kind of accident to POTUS45<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>or not... my gut instinct is that his constant raving about it is what<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>triggered these people to give it a whirl.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I have one toe in the survivalist/prepper community and they are known<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>for aquiring and stockpiling antibiotics sold for fish/aquariums. All<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>the major human antibiotics have fish equivalents FishMox and FishFlox<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>for example. There is much discussion/lore/wisdom in that community<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>around which products/sources are actually pharmaceutical-grade and<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>honest-dosage and well-regulated. I didn't know of chloroquine <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>phosphate or it's use... they are saying "cleaning" but I think they<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>mean disinfecting. It sounds to me that the problem was dosage, not<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>contamination, but the product they used may have been cut or mixed with<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>something toxic to humans.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I've a friend who lived in Ghana for years with Peace Corps who<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>contracted malaria and was medicated with one of the chloroquine drugs. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>He understood then (25 years ago) that it was the third world's<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>"silver-bullet" and in his case it turned his symptoms around<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>(life-threatening) in hours (on an IV).... his response to this<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>prescription-from-POTUS is that the death rate in the third world could<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>spike if the first world diverts their supply (probably coming from<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>China?) abruptly for our own use. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I also heard that patients depending on these chloroquines in the first<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>world are already finding that the supplies are drying up and many<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>cannot get their usual refills. Doh!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></blockquote></div></body></html>