<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title><style type="text/css">p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div style="font-family:Arial;">France is pushing chloroquine hard. A FriAMer has relatives there.<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">Just because the first person that told people about this was an idiot does not make the information wrong.<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">davew<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div>On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, at 2:53 PM, Barry MacKichan wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt"><div style="font-family:sans-serif;"><div style="white-space:normal;"><p dir="auto">Elon Musk had a serious brush with malaria about 20 years ago, and is evidently one of the insistent sources pushing for chloroquine. Sorry, I don’t have references.<br></p><p dir="auto">—Barry<br></p><p dir="auto">On 24 Mar 2020, at 0:42, Steven A Smith wrote:<br></p><blockquote style="border-left-color:rgb(119, 119, 119);border-left-style:solid;border-left-width:2px;color:rgb(119, 119, 119);margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:5px;margin-left:0px;padding-left:5px;"><p dir="auto"></p><div>My first reaction to this was: THANK YOU DEAR LEADER!<br></div><div> <br></div><div> <a href="https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/briannasacks/man-died-chloroquine-phosphate-coronavirus" style="color:rgb(119, 119, 119);">https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/briannasacks/man-died-chloroquine-phosphate-coronavirus</a><br></div><div> <br></div><div> But, I don't know if we can attribute this kind of accident to POTUS45<br></div><div> or not... my gut instinct is that his constant raving about it is what<br></div><div> triggered these people to give it a whirl.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> I have one toe in the survivalist/prepper community and they are known<br></div><div> for aquiring and stockpiling antibiotics sold for fish/aquariums. All<br></div><div> the major human antibiotics have fish equivalents FishMox and FishFlox<br></div><div> for example. There is much discussion/lore/wisdom in that community<br></div><div> around which products/sources are actually pharmaceutical-grade and<br></div><div> honest-dosage and well-regulated. I didn't know of chloroquine <br></div><div> phosphate or it's use... they are saying "cleaning" but I think they<br></div><div> mean disinfecting. It sounds to me that the problem was dosage, not<br></div><div> contamination, but the product they used may have been cut or mixed with<br></div><div> something toxic to humans.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> I've a friend who lived in Ghana for years with Peace Corps who<br></div><div> contracted malaria and was medicated with one of the chloroquine drugs. <br></div><div> He understood then (25 years ago) that it was the third world's<br></div><div> "silver-bullet" and in his case it turned his symptoms around<br></div><div> (life-threatening) in hours (on an IV).... his response to this<br></div><div> prescription-from-POTUS is that the death rate in the third world could<br></div><div> spike if the first world diverts their supply (probably coming from<br></div><div> China?) abruptly for our own use. <br></div><div> <br></div><div> I also heard that patients depending on these chloroquines in the first<br></div><div> world are already finding that the supplies are drying up and many<br></div><div> cannot get their usual refills. Doh!<br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div> ============================================================<br></div><div> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<br></div><div> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College<br></div><div> to unsubscribe <a href="http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com" style="color:rgb(119, 119, 119);">http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com</a><br></div><div> archives back to 2003: <a href="http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/" style="color:rgb(119, 119, 119);">http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/</a><br></div><div> FRIAM-COMIC <a href="http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/" style="color:rgb(119, 119, 119);">http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/</a> by Dr. Strangelove<br></div><p></p></blockquote></div></div><div>============================================================<br></div><div>FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<br></div><div>Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College<br></div><div>to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com<br></div><div>archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/<br></div><div>FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove<br></div><div><br></div></blockquote><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div></body></html>