<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">So this article looks like it points to interesting data:<div class=""><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/30/health/coronavirus-restrictions-fevers.html" class="">https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/30/health/coronavirus-restrictions-fevers.html</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The limitation there will be representativeness of the sample, since there will presumably be some bias structure in who happens to own Kinsa thermometers.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">However, it seems to me like I remember Cambridge Analytica, or some name like that, using search and social-media data to figure out who was interested in what, by who was looking what up. Can that very big catch-net be used to try to get near-realtime feedback on policy effects? I know there was the big hue and cry about the problems of using all that data, but if I am not mistaken, none of the companies has given any of it up. Since fever-prevalence data need not be localized more tightly than demographic sectors to be incredibly useful, that seems like something that could be well-anonymized, but turned into a feedback tool for policy guidance.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Are bigG or FB already doing this? Anybody else? </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Eric</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 30, 2020, at 1:43 PM, Dean Gerber <<a href="mailto:pd_gerber@yahoo.com" class="">pd_gerber@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><div class="ydp11768c81yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div class=""></div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">All--</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">Actual data for NM follows:</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><a href="https://covidtracking.com/data/state/new-mexico/#history" class="">covidtracking.com/data/state/new-mexico/#history</a><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">Highly recommended and talented volunteer group that could use expert help. (Hint, hint). They act in place of CDC: <a href="http://covidtracking.com" class="">covidtracking.com</a></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">Also for the curious:</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><a href="http://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">http://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6</a><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><a href="http://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">http://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/</a><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best to all,<br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">Dean Gerber</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div>
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On Sunday, March 29, 2020, 06:20:01 PM MDT, Tom Johnson <<a href="mailto:tom@jtjohnson.com" class="">tom@jtjohnson.com</a>> wrote:
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<div class=""><div id="yiv6707621386" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Ah yes. The ol' Behavioral Epidemiology theory.<br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="yiv6707621386gmail_signature" dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><br clear="none" class="">============================================<br clear="none" class="">Tom Johnson - <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:tom@jtjohnson.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:tom@jtjohnson.com" class="">tom@jtjohnson.com</a><br clear="none" class="">Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA<br clear="none" class="">505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h)<br clear="none" class=""><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://nmfog.org/" class=""><b class=""><font color="#0b5394" class="">NM Foundation for Open Government</font></b></a><br clear="none" class=""><b class=""><font color="#0000ff" class="">Check out <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/Its-The-Peoples-Data/1599854626919671" class="">It's The People's Data</a></font></b> </div><div class="">============================================</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br clear="none" class=""></div></div><br clear="none" class=""><div class="yiv6707621386gmail_quote"><div class="yiv6707621386yqt1301136764" id="yiv6707621386yqtfd44132"><div class="yiv6707621386gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 6:17 PM Frank Wimberly <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:wimberly3@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:wimberly3@gmail.com" class="">wimberly3@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none" class=""></div><blockquote class="yiv6707621386gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div class="">The column I added indicates that the derivative is increasing.<br clear="none" class=""><br clear="none" class=""><div class="">---<br clear="none" class="">Frank C. Wimberly<br clear="none" class="">505 670-9918<br clear="none" class="">Santa Fe, NM</div></div><br clear="none" class=""><div class="yiv6707621386gmail_quote"><div class="yiv6707621386gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 5:56 PM <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com" class="">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none" class=""></div><blockquote class="yiv6707621386gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div lang="EN-US" class=""><div class=""><p class="yiv6707621386MsoNormal">Oh, just mine. The idea that 14 days after the toilet paper orgy the growth rate would peak. It was also 14 days ago that the schools closed. <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="yiv6707621386MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="yiv6707621386MsoNormal">N<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="yiv6707621386MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="yiv6707621386MsoNormal">Nicholas Thompson<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="yiv6707621386MsoNormal">Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="yiv6707621386MsoNormal">Clark University<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="yiv6707621386MsoNormal"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ThompNickSon2@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ThompNickSon2@gmail.com" class=""><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193);" class="">ThompNickSon2@gmail.com</span></a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="yiv6707621386MsoNormal"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/" class=""><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193);" class="">https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/</span></a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="yiv6707621386MsoNormal"> <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="yiv6707621386MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="yiv6707621386MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="yiv6707621386MsoNormal"><b class="">From:</b> Friam <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" class="">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> <b class="">On Behalf Of </b>Tom Johnson<br clear="none" class=""><b class="">Sent:</b> Sunday, March 29, 2020 5:12 PM<br clear="none" class=""><b class="">To:</b> The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" class="">friam@redfish.com</a>><br clear="none" class=""><b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="yiv6707621386MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><div class=""><p class="yiv6707621386MsoNormal">Which and whose theory is that?<br clear="all" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="yiv6707621386MsoNormal"><br clear="none" class="">============================================<br clear="none" class="">Tom Johnson - <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:tom@jtjohnson.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:tom@jtjohnson.com" class="">tom@jtjohnson.com</a><br clear="none" class="">Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA<br clear="none" class="">505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h)<br clear="none" class=""><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://nmfog.org/" class=""><b class=""><span style="color:rgb(11,83,148);" class="">NM Foundation for Open Government</span></b></a><br clear="none" class=""><b class=""><span style="color:blue;" class="">Check out <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/Its-The-Peoples-Data/1599854626919671" class="">It's The People's Data</a></span></b> <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p></div><div class=""><p class="yiv6707621386MsoNormal">============================================<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class="yiv6707621386MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p></div><p class="yiv6707621386MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><div class=""><div class=""><p class="yiv6707621386MsoNormal">On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 3:51 PM <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com" class="">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p></div><blockquote style="border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);border-style:none none none solid;border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="yiv6707621386MsoNormal">All, particularly the mother church: <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="yiv6707621386MsoNormal"> <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="yiv6707621386MsoNormal">Don’t you hate it when a perfectly beautiful theory is destroyed by an ugly fact. <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="yiv6707621386MsoNormal"> <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="yiv6707621386MsoNormal">On to Monday! 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