<div dir="ltr">Is that a rectal thermometer?<div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Cody Smith</div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 9:16 PM Steven A Smith <<a href="mailto:sasmyth@swcp.com">sasmyth@swcp.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>sew one into your mask with an LED readout so everyone can see
your spO2, heart rate and temperature?</p>
<p><a href="https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11050" target="_blank">https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11050</a>
(just hold this one under your tongue) while masked?<br>
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<div>On 4/23/20 8:59 PM, cody dooderson
wrote:<br>
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<div>If anyone needs an idea for a microbit project here is
one, <a href="https://www.sparkfun.com/products/15271" target="_blank">https://www.sparkfun.com/products/15271</a> .</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Cody Smith</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 8:39
PM Steven A Smith <<a href="mailto:sasmyth@swcp.com" target="_blank">sasmyth@swcp.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p>Merle, et al -</p>
<p>Interesting article...<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"> We’ve had two life-threatening
incidents, one trekking in Nepal and the other in a remote
part of Sri Lanka, where the availability of a pulse
oximeter made all the difference. We now routinely check
our oxygenation with one.
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<div>Ed<br>
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<p>I have had some experience with a mountaineering spO2
meter and a Withings fitness monitor with built in spO2...
the fitness monitor required removing the unit from the
band and holding it diligently against the pad of a
finger, and that didn't always give a good reading, but
once I understood it's idiosyncracies it wasn't bad. both
devices are long-since nonfunctional (not to be worn
swimming or in the shower it seems).<br>
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<p>It seems like IOT wearables (already saturating the
market for fitness applications) like my Withings could be
getting better. Maybe even good-enough to be useful in
predicting/monitoring/tracking COVID19 symptoms/onset, at
least statistically... <br>
</p>
<p>There is some precedent with the Kinsa effort to use
their <a href="https://healthweather.us/?mode=Atypical" target="_blank">IOT thermometer
data to predict abnormal levels of influenza-like
symptoms</a>. <br>
</p>
<p>There seem to be a number of pulse-oximeter fitness
trackers.<br>
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<p><a href="https://3dinsider.com/pulse-oximeter-fitness-trackers/" target="_blank">https://3dinsider.com/pulse-oximeter-fitness-trackers/</a></p>
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<p>The <a href="https://ouraring.com/ucsf-tempredict-study" target="_blank">Oura ring</a>'s
body temperature sensing has already been pressed into
service for a study. I don't know if the "band" form
factor is able to maintain good enough skin-contact to be
consistent... <br>
</p>
<p>I just did a <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=fitness+activity+tracker+covid&oq=fitness+activity+tracker+covid&aqs=chrome..69i57j33.6879j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8" target="_blank">search on the
topic</a> and found a number of speculative popular
articles on the topic, but haven't had time to dig through
them.</p>
<p>This was one of the more promising:<br>
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<p><a href="https://www.mobihealthnews.com/news/europe/fitbits-new-coronavirus-feature-can-connect-users-telemedicine-services-indoor-work-out" target="_blank">https://www.mobihealthnews.com/news/europe/fitbits-new-coronavirus-feature-can-connect-users-telemedicine-services-indoor-work-out</a></p>
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<p>Our own Mohammed El-Beltagy (cc;ed here) is CTO for a
Swedish company (<a href="https://www.racefox.com/en/home" target="_blank">RaceFox</a>)
doing using fitness monitors for athletic performance
enhancement. He may be more up on the possibilities?</p>
<p>- Steve<br>
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<div>On Apr 23, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Roger Critchlow
<<a href="mailto:rec@elf.org" target="_blank">rec@elf.org</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">I found it credible. We're adding
a pulse oximeter to the kit.
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<div>There was another report, <a href="https://meaww.com/six-austrian-divers-permanently-damaged-lungs-recovery-mild-coronavirus-covid-19" target="_blank">https://meaww.com/six-austrian-divers-permanently-damaged-lungs-recovery-mild-coronavirus-covid-19</a>. scuba
divers recovered from mild covid infection and
ended up with lungs so damaged that it is not
safe for them to dive anymore. So many people
with less demanding pastimes may be in a
similar way but not manifesting the problem,
though a dive safety exam would turn it up,
and maybe a pulse oximeter, too.</div>
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<div>I wonder if any of those cell phone
pulsimeters could be upgraded to oximeters
with some calibration?</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Has
the list read this article in the
NYTimes. What's your take?</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/20/opinion/coronavirus-testing-pneumonia.html?smid=em-share" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:16px" target="_blank">https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/20/opinion/coronavirus-testing-pneumonia.html?smid=em-share</a><br>
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