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<p>I guess the lead might be long enough, but probably needs a
different calibration.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Is that a rectal thermometer?
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 9:16
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<p>sew one into your mask with an LED readout so everyone
can see your spO2, heart rate and temperature?</p>
<p><a href="https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11050"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11050</a>
(just hold this one under your tongue) while masked?<br>
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<div>On 4/23/20 8:59 PM, cody dooderson wrote:<br>
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<div>If anyone needs an idea for a microbit project here
is one, <a
href="https://www.sparkfun.com/products/15271"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.sparkfun.com/products/15271</a> .</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 23, 2020
at 8:39 PM Steven A Smith <<a
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<p>Merle, et al -</p>
<p>Interesting article...<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"> We’ve had two
life-threatening incidents, one trekking in Nepal
and the other in a remote part of Sri Lanka, where
the availability of a pulse oximeter made all the
difference. We now routinely check our oxygenation
with one.
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<p>I have had some experience with a mountaineering
spO2 meter and a Withings fitness monitor with
built in spO2... the fitness monitor required
removing the unit from the band and holding it
diligently against the pad of a finger, and that
didn't always give a good reading, but once I
understood it's idiosyncracies it wasn't bad.
both devices are long-since nonfunctional (not to
be worn swimming or in the shower it seems).<br>
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<p>It seems like IOT wearables (already saturating
the market for fitness applications) like my
Withings could be getting better. Maybe even
good-enough to be useful in
predicting/monitoring/tracking COVID19
symptoms/onset, at least statistically... <br>
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<p>There is some precedent with the Kinsa effort to
use their <a
href="https://healthweather.us/?mode=Atypical"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">IOT
thermometer data to predict abnormal levels of
influenza-like symptoms</a>. <br>
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<p>There seem to be a number of pulse-oximeter
fitness trackers.<br>
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<p><a
href="https://3dinsider.com/pulse-oximeter-fitness-trackers/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://3dinsider.com/pulse-oximeter-fitness-trackers/</a></p>
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<p>The <a
href="https://ouraring.com/ucsf-tempredict-study"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Oura ring</a>'s
body temperature sensing has already been pressed
into service for a study. I don't know if the
"band" form factor is able to maintain good enough
skin-contact to be consistent... <br>
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<p>I just did a <a
href="https://www.google.com/search?q=fitness+activity+tracker+covid&oq=fitness+activity+tracker+covid&aqs=chrome..69i57j33.6879j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">search on
the topic</a> and found a number of speculative
popular articles on the topic, but haven't had
time to dig through them.</p>
<p>This was one of the more promising:<br>
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<p><a
href="https://www.mobihealthnews.com/news/europe/fitbits-new-coronavirus-feature-can-connect-users-telemedicine-services-indoor-work-out"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.mobihealthnews.com/news/europe/fitbits-new-coronavirus-feature-can-connect-users-telemedicine-services-indoor-work-out</a></p>
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<p>Our own Mohammed El-Beltagy (cc;ed here) is CTO
for a Swedish company (<a
href="https://www.racefox.com/en/home"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">RaceFox</a>)
doing using fitness monitors for athletic
performance enhancement. He may be more up on
the possibilities?</p>
<p>- Steve<br>
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Technology and Science Laboratory
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Professor Emeritus of Computer Science,
University of New Mexico<br>
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1017 Sierra Pinon</div>
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505-984-0136 (home)<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span> <span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><a
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<div>On Apr 23, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Roger
Critchlow <<a href="mailto:rec@elf.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">rec@elf.org</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">I found it credible. We're
adding a pulse oximeter to the kit.
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<div>There was another report, <a
href="https://meaww.com/six-austrian-divers-permanently-damaged-lungs-recovery-mild-coronavirus-covid-19"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://meaww.com/six-austrian-divers-permanently-damaged-lungs-recovery-mild-coronavirus-covid-19</a>. scuba
divers recovered from mild covid
infection and ended up with lungs so
damaged that it is not safe for them
to dive anymore. So many people with
less demanding pastimes may be in a
similar way but not manifesting the
problem, though a dive safety exam
would turn it up, and maybe a pulse
oximeter, too.</div>
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<div>I wonder if any of those cell phone
pulsimeters could be upgraded to
oximeters with some calibration?</div>
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the list read this article in
the NYTimes. What's your take?</div>
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href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/20/opinion/coronavirus-testing-pneumonia.html?smid=em-share"
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:16px" target="_blank"
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President,
Center for
Emergent
Diplomacy<br>
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<div>Santa Fe, New
Mexico, USA</div>
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">merlelefkoff@gmail.com</a><br>
mobile: (303)
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@Merle_Lefkoff<br>
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