<div dir="ltr">Have you read Kernberg? I would do that first and I would claim that he should dominate me and the others with respect to his/their/my credibility. My knowledge, such as it is, comes from informal conversations with senior psychoanalysts in Pittsburgh. Ragins, Schachter, Ratey, McLaughlin, et al. And my wife who is not a senior analyst but was a student of all those. She is reticent to talk about these issues but clearly knows more than I do. <div><br></div><div>Do you still deny that Trump's narcissism interferes with his ability to be president? You seem to think it's independent of his incompetence. I don't think so.</div><div><br></div><div>By the way, the world is more complex that the capacity of language to describe it. There was an article in the New Yorker about 35 years ago or more. About Sylvia Frumpkin, a pseudonym for an anonymous psychiatric patient. The article describe the attempt by a series of psychiatrists to diagnose her. Most of them felt she was schizophrenic but an Indian (Asian) doctor said she was severely bipolar. Asked why he didn't think she was schizophrenic he said it was because of the lack of delusional material. The others said but she said she was married to Mickey Mouse. The Indian doc asked, "Who's he?" That's irrelevant but funny. The article was very long and not complete in one issue, as I recall.</div><div><br></div><div>Frank</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 12:41 PM uǝlƃ ☣ <<a href="mailto:gepropella@gmail.com">gepropella@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The evidence presented in Shröder-Abé et al does not support that. I worry about the authority with which you assert such things. At the very least, your lack of supporting evidence *prevents* me from doing any homework on my own that might support what you're saying. Everything I'm finding disagrees with you. Help me out, here.<br>
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On 4/29/20 11:23 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote:<br>
> By the way, regarding the subtypes of narcissism: They are distinguished by severity of symptoms rather than differences in the basic dynamic, which are the same.<br>
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