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<div style="font-family:Arial;">I once taught an honors course,
with Father Smith at St. Thomas on the Anthropology and Theology
of War. One of the prime forces behind war — since prehistory —
had been nothing more than birth control.<br>
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<p>Do you meant literally *birth* and *control*, or rather
*population* and *reduction*?<br>
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<p>The more literal usage works well too. Controlling Births. I
think much warfare culminates (or did before modernish times) in
the victors killing the men and raping/impregnating and enslaving
the women either in-place, inhabiting the conquered lands or
taking them back to their homeland. Children alternatively would
have been killed or enslaved. Thus the genetic heritage of
Genghis Khan...<br>
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<p>One step more sophisticated than the rats?</p>
<p> I don't think we have to go there, no matter how much the gun
hoarders want their chance at being unequivocally "on top" at
least for one round of the grande iterated prisoner's dilemma that
is human civilization.<br>
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<p>- Steve<br>
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<p class="qt-MsoNormal">Well, in a sense that’s correct. But
their <a
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not one that I am prepared to take as a model. Just imagine
the worst sort of dystopian post apocalyptic novel. See the
description of the Calhoun experiment on p 224.<br>
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Psychology<br>
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<p class="qt-MsoNormal">< <span style="color:black;">You
recall that I invoked as a model that experiment in which
24 rats were put in a quarter acre enclosure in Baltimore
and fed and watered and protected to see how the
population would develop. They never got above two
hundred. </span>><br>
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<p class="qt-MsoNormal">Maybe the rats were right?<br>
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